Another scouser on his way to united...... were a club full of scousers lol

If Ole has recommended him then sign him up!

Are we skint? Certainly looks like it. Is this what David Gill calls "investment in the team"? Stealing kids from hard up neighbours?

The lad does indeed look a good prospect;but I will be ashamed if we buy him on the cheap.

I would rather see a kid from Liverpool in United's team than a kid from Brazil or France ot Portugal.

Brilliant young prospect.......shame if United get him on the cheap tho!! The least they could do is give a fair price for him!!

Midfield General, more ABU nonsense from you.

We always buy or sign youngsters cheaply. Always have. Even in the bad old days of the plc, which you want to return us to. The picture of Ole should have been a reminder of that! Doh!

As for the lad, I've only seen him play the once and he looked reserve standard at least. We lack defenders at pretty much all levels of the club, so adding one at reserve level would be sensible. It would also help out a neighbour financially. However, I'm more concerned that we are not producing our own defenders in sufficient quantity. We've had to buy nearly all of our defensive prospects like Smalling, de Laet, McGinty, Wooton, etc. Only Jonny Evans, Reece Brown and Oliver Gill are home produced.

I don't think it's a case of buying on the cheap, I'm certain he has a value and that would be a realistic price. Because Stockport have gone into administration, they are looking for hard cash, not a deal where lad plays 100 games for Utd and gets more money etc.
Yes Utd will get a bargain, based on the potential the lad has got, but then it's down to him to get the chances and develop into a class player.
All the prem teams do it and it's based on financial business agreements.
So realistically what is a Stockport reserve team player worth?

Midfield General, 16/03/2010 at 07:47: "Are we skint? Certainly looks like it. Is this what David Gill calls "investment in the team"? Stealing kids from hard up neighbours?"

MG - Oh my, you're at it again. Don't you ever give it a rest? You'll skew any angle just to squeeze in your one-track-minded view of things, even when it turns out your beloved Solskjaer is in fact the one instigating this move: "I'll be recommending him to the gaffer" etc. Selective reading of the piece again?

Not too long ago you wrote: " Ole looks to be a superb coach to me. His understanding of the game, especially the attacking roles is first class. I can't think of many ex-players who can read, interpret and explain the dynamics of the modern game better. Future United manager? He is very smart and he is a strong character despite being a good guy. I think he already knows enough to manage United, but I'd like to see him become Fergie's assistant first. MUST patron as well. True red legend." Midfield General, 9/03/2010 at 11:01.

( From: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1196143_ole__valencias_a_dream )

One would think you'd be thrilled that "future United manager" & "MUST patron" Solskjaer is recommending this lad, eh? But, no. Glass half empty, as always.

On that same thread, someone quite fittingly said this:

"Midfield General, You are starting to become a caricature of yourself, mate."
Doc Savage 9/03/2010 at 15:45.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

sounds about right,must be selling rio and vidic this year

As a County fan, I don't think United should be ashamed of getting the kid at a bargain price. It's what all clubs try to do. I do think that we ALL should be embarassed at the shortsightedness of short changing the game of football in this way. Without all the Stockport Countys, Macclesfields, Woodley Sports, what are United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, City, etc the kings of ? The phrase Big Fish In A Small Pond (and getting ever smaller) comes to mind.
If you are a football fan then you must be able to see the big picture and that is that the game of football is dying on it's a*se, and has been for years, from the roots upwards.
I don't know the answers but I am sure that the first step is when a majority of fans wake up and recognize that there is a problem. I do know that the answer is not for the top few to take more and more of the money out of the game, that is how we got in this mess.

T+C

You have the cheek to call me an ABU!! Knowing you used to an Evertonian, your comments mean nothing to real reds like me.

Did you see Sneijder's pass last night btw?

Isn't he the player you said was nowhere near good enough for United? Seems he may be player of the year in Italy. Muppet.

T+C

Ole was not really a cheap youngster. 1.5 mil was not a small amount in those days - the record transfer in the UK was still only around 4mil. Muppet.

"We have always signed youngsters cheaply"

What like Ronaldo (12m) and Rooney (27m)? Muppet.

Phil B^), Stockport
16/03/2010 at 21:44

Sniffing around a liquidators sale for bargains is also perfectly legal, but I would rather United were above it. If the player is good enough, and I trust Ole's judgement, then we should pay a fair price, with future payments linked to player progression.

There are countless examples of kids being taken on the cheap (Wenger being the master) who have gone on to be worth many millions, and I think all fans of the smaller clubs already see the problem. Need the fans of the big / rich clubs to realise the situation is often unfair.

correction - the UK and world record transfer in 1996 was Shearer/15mil, the previous year in the UK was Collymore/8mil.

Still, 1.5mil was not peanuts, and we can be sure Stockport will get nowhere near that amount, so there is no comparison T+C.

Muddled General, "You have the cheek to call me an ABU!!"

You are anti-United. That's evident in everything you post. We identify a good young kid and out come your anti-United comments. We sign a new sponsorship deal and out come your anti-United comments. We reduce the debt slightly and out come your anti-United comments. SAF says he doesn't want to buy players at inflated prices and out come your anti-United comments. You are a classic ABU. If you weren't on here so often, I'd have had you pegged from a bitter troll. But even bitters have more integrity; they hate United through jealousy. Why you hate United isn't at all clear.

"Knowing you used to an Evertonian, your comments mean nothing to real reds like me."

Obviously, you aren't a red, you are a yellow. But worse, you are an ABU. Oh, and I wouldn't listen to that deluded moron Anything but Red. He hasn't got two brain cells to rub together. I accused him of being a scouser because he was cavorting with Spirit of Shankley and trying to get them to start FC United of Liverpool. Instead of saying he was on MUT business and supported Spirit of Shankley, he accused me of being an Evertonian because I knew of his actions. Infantile crap, of course. He didn't even think through why an evertonian would be on the Spirit of Shankley website. It was the first thing that popped into his head. He has a mental age of about 7. He doesn't realise that I still have friends who are in MUT, even though I split with them long ago for putting personal agendas ahead of the supporters they are supposed to be helping.

I have only ever been a United fan, from a United family and I'm well known for that. Unlike you, I AM a red and I could never be a yellow.

Oh, and as well as changing your allegiance from United to anti-Glazer, you've also gone anti-Tooth&Claw and anti-Real United Fans. Well done. I hope that bitter taste of bile stays with you.

MG - come on that's complete rubbish. We already bought Cole for 7 million (effectively) before we bought Solskjaer! And I don't think that even that was a British record transfer. Stick with the facts.

Let the name calling begin ... MG, your bile is more fitting of a Bitter than a Red ... you need to calm down. You're losing it, mate.

Btw, Ole was an complete unknown at the time & at 1.5m an absolute steal. To spin that any other way is the height of fabrication. Ronaldo at 12m was also a massive steal, sold subsequently for a tidy 68m profit! And Rooney ... how much is he worth now? 100m they're saying? = 73m profit! *cues Muppet show theme song*

"Midfield General, You are starting to become a caricature of yourself, mate." Doc Savage 9/03/2010 at 15:45.

MG - In 1996 when United signed Ole for 1.5m, Newcastle I believe signed Shearer for 15m! 4m UK record transfer fee ... right, lol.

"Midfield General, You are starting to become a caricature of yourself, mate." Doc Savage 9/03/2010 at 15:45.

Calm down...I realised my error and posted a correction - before anyone else pulled me. Anyone else ever admit their errors on here...T+C...Alex? Never, even when proved beyond any doubt....

All I can say is the memory isn't what it was, it was not a deliberate attempt to mislead!

But the point remains, 1.5 for a untried young player from Norway was not peanuts, which a lot of young players do go for. How much will we pay for this guy? A couple of hundred grand?

MG said: "Calm down...I realised my error and posted a correction"

Calm down? Sure, after I stop my toes from laughing. If anyone needs to calm down, it's you. You've been giddy since the day the Red Knights arrived on the scene, and haven't come back down to Earth ever since. Here's a novel idea for you - how about you starting checking the FACTS before you start digging your holes? Oh wait, your hole's dug too deep already ...

"Never, even when proved beyond any doubt...."

You haven't proved one single thing, nevermind anything beyond a doubt. All you've posted is opinion after opinion after opinion. You're basically a broken record. You've never deviated one bit from the one singular option you fancy, and that's the Red Knights' (as-yet-non-)offer which you have swallowed hook, line & sinker. Not one word from you about the Zahavi-led Chinese billion+ bid that predates the RKs by a week or so ...

"All I can say is the memory isn't what it was, it was not a deliberate attempt to mislead!"

Selective memory you mean? Made-up bits, skewed recall with parts not fitting your argument conveniently left forgotten. Hard to take you seriously, to be honest, as you HAVE deliberately attempted to mislead on far too many occasions already. This is just but one occasion in which you got caught in your own lie.

"How much will we pay for this guy? A couple of hundred grand?" and "Stockport will get nowhere near that amount [i.e. 1.5m]"

Again - Clairvoyance of the highest order MG! Clearly, this is what fuels your burning agenda - in a word: SPECULATION. You need to stop your mind from wandering into alternating realms of negative-paranoid fantasies & self-fulfilling prophecies. No price on the lad has yet been mentioned. Can't you just sit tight, and wait for ACTUAL FACTS to filter in? Oh, wait, you're so steeped in fabrication you wouldn't know a fact if it hit you on the head, so why bother right? It's not going to me, but someone close to you seriously needs to smack you in the head. The sooner you get back down to Earth, the better.

"Midfield General, You are starting to become a caricature of yourself, mate." Doc Savage 9/03/2010 at 15:45.

Alex,

I am not saying I prefer the RKs over any other potential new owner at all. But they are the only ones publicly saying or doing anything.

The chinese Zahavi bid, to my knowledge, has only been reported by one person - Harry Harris. He's a mate of Zahavi, so it might well be true. But we know almost nothing about this lot - if details come available I will review it. At the moment it is one journo (could be more and I missed it) claiming a bid went in a while ago and was rejected. There is nothing really to consider unless they plan another bid and release details.

True United fans have never argued that we haven't used our financial muscle when the need arises, but it isn't anything to be ashamed of, ok we have had our share of turkeys need I mention Veron,Djemba Djemba,Kleberson and to a degree Forlan but is anybody seriously telling me the money we spent on Ferdinand,Rooney,Ronaldo was not paid back many times over in results and trophies?
And I do believe that some of the young players we have brought to OT will be bargains Rafael and Fabio,Macheda,Pogba and Petrucci all look as if they will be first team regulars and remember they are young.
So let's look forward and with any luck the Glazers will become just another irritation we can brush aside!