"Just get in the lane earlier?It's chokka and noby let's anybody in over here"
I travel that way most days and while the bottleneck under the railway bridge was always busy, the junction at Liverpool Rd is also, now, tricky to negotiate. Some of this is due to the lane reduction, although as Deansgate is already narrowed by on street parking its not only the extended pavement that casues this, it remains to be seen if, once more people are familiar with the new layout this lessens.
"Besides the traffic now queues twice as long. If you have fify cars side by side all going straight on then that is efficient. If you have only one lane for straight on you then have a queue of 100 cars that is twice as long!"
But as Deansgate gets steadily narrow as it goes north is this not just moving the choke point, rather than making it worse. From the council's point of view there is a logic to having thehold up there rather than outside Kendals or Spinningfields and the road narrows.
"so discourage a main road being used as a..... main road?"
Seems so yes, by diverting traffic off Deansagte and onto Trinty Way the council are presumably hoping to improve the city centre, especially the section of Deansgate from John Rylands to Blackfriars, which is generally stationary or slow moving traffic at busy times. In that context encouraging through traffic to use different routes is sensible.
"As for the outdoor eating on Deansagte well that's a laugh. Just back from OZ where it is 27c"
Its summer there, winter here. Many restaurants on Deansgate already offer outside seating, which is very popular in summer.
"Also who is serving up the food on Deansgate"
I can think of about a dozen north of Kendals, at least six, with more planned south of it.
"My folks wanted to do some shopping at Kendals last Saturday and tehy usually park in the multi storey behind it as they aren't too good on their feet but as they could get to it due to snarl up they turned back and went to the Trafford Centre"
Thats a shame, however, if succesful, an attempt to divert trhough traffic off Deansgate would make it easier for them to get there.
As I said I am not connected to the council, this is just speculation on my part on what they may be planning.
The obvious flaw would seem to be buses as Deansgate is currently the main route from Shudehill to Salford, and towns beyond, and from John Dalton St, Piccadilly as well. These could be re-routed, but it would make it harder for people to actually get on them.
I travel that way most days and while the bottleneck under the railway bridge was always busy, the junction at Liverpool Rd is also, now, tricky to negotiate. Some of this is due to the lane reduction, although as Deansgate is already narrowed by on street parking its not only the extended pavement that casues this, it remains to be seen if, once more people are familiar with the new layout this lessens.
"Besides the traffic now queues twice as long. If you have fify cars side by side all going straight on then that is efficient. If you have only one lane for straight on you then have a queue of 100 cars that is twice as long!"
But as Deansgate gets steadily narrow as it goes north is this not just moving the choke point, rather than making it worse. From the council's point of view there is a logic to having thehold up there rather than outside Kendals or Spinningfields and the road narrows.
"so discourage a main road being used as a..... main road?"
Seems so yes, by diverting traffic off Deansagte and onto Trinty Way the council are presumably hoping to improve the city centre, especially the section of Deansgate from John Rylands to Blackfriars, which is generally stationary or slow moving traffic at busy times. In that context encouraging through traffic to use different routes is sensible.
"As for the outdoor eating on Deansagte well that's a laugh. Just back from OZ where it is 27c"
Its summer there, winter here. Many restaurants on Deansgate already offer outside seating, which is very popular in summer.
"Also who is serving up the food on Deansgate"
I can think of about a dozen north of Kendals, at least six, with more planned south of it.
"My folks wanted to do some shopping at Kendals last Saturday and tehy usually park in the multi storey behind it as they aren't too good on their feet but as they could get to it due to snarl up they turned back and went to the Trafford Centre"
Thats a shame, however, if succesful, an attempt to divert trhough traffic off Deansgate would make it easier for them to get there.
As I said I am not connected to the council, this is just speculation on my part on what they may be planning.
The obvious flaw would seem to be buses as Deansgate is currently the main route from Shudehill to Salford, and towns beyond, and from John Dalton St, Piccadilly as well. These could be re-routed, but it would make it harder for people to actually get on them.