Excellent game last night which was spoilt by a very poor referee and assistants who were behind play for most of the game. It is a credit to both teams that they played in appalling conditions. Both sides battled well against the elements Great Harwood are one of the form teams at the moment and certainly gave our lads a run for their money. Onwards and upwards and barring a disaster in the run in we should get promotion to the NWCL 1st Division. The Great Harwood supporter who was sitting in front of me had the most biased opinion I have ever heard from a football fan in my life. He was excellent and shouted his team on from start to finish in a stentorian voice. He kicked every ball contested every decision against his team and he gave the ref no respite even suggesting on a number of occasions the referee and his assistants were playing for FC. ??oeGet them a white shirt??? he hollered. Well done to him he was a Great Harwood fan through and through.

Too Commercial? Blatter is a comedian with a long line of meddling with the game to suit commercial interests. Then again FC Nomads will see this as Moses returning from the Mount. Validation of their little project. Just as big Chelsea are already celebrating the title little Chelsea are doing the same.

Cowd! It was a Big coat and woolly hat night. I think we took a hard earned point from a team going all out to finish as high as possible. Reading the programme supplement, Great Harwood are acutely aware of the changes the new step four division will have on the football pyramid, that teams taken from step five will need to be replaced and the ripple effect that will have on step six. In short, they may well be more than two promotion places made available in the NWCFL Div.2. this season and they want one. We may be favourites to win the league, but our nearest rivals also have everything to play for. Best of all, we still have games left against some of those clubs. Viva la revolution, come on FC.

Travelling to the back of beyond on a Monday night to watch a 1-1 draw in sleet and snow! Now that's dedication!

As for Blatter's interview: that's pure irony. He has done more than most to comercialise FIFA and milk the game for all he can.

Malc/Tommy/....
You've really must be a bit of sad chuffer if you've got nothing better to do than troll here. Let FC & fans get on with it.

Considering we were on the tele and the weather was brassic and our bones were still warming up from the big chill at Altincham it was a top turn out. Credit to Harwood they have been on a sweet run recently and were always going to make thing difficult.
Still its a point more and a point nearer the Title.

1100??? 1100???? 499 days and counting boys! I may have overestimated the timeframe. Hey Malcolm, sorry to break the news to you my British brother, but your "share" doesn't entitle you to jack squat. You don't get dividends (read the constitution) you can never resell your "share" (read the constitution) and god knows what you will be ALLOWED to vote on. If FC fans think having Sepp Blabbermouth on your side is a good thing . . . .. Blabber's comments are like the ocean calling the lake wet. Can't wait till the silverware is handed out and Andy Walsh grabs the trophy from the players and says "All Glory Laud and Honor the Great Andy Walsh!"

Tommy/Malcolm As you are so obviously envious of FC United and all they have achieved, why not come along to the Thameside Stadium on Saturday and show your support, I'm sure you'ld get a warm reception! otherwise go back to the blue moon forum and try to wind them up! a mention of 30 years should do the trick. FRO

I was annoyed that this game was moved to a Monday night. It made it hard for me to attend but fortunately I managed to make it, plenty of others couldn't. A very poor game FC didn't play well, Great Harwood simply can't play well, think Watford in the 80's or Wimbledon in the 90's for an example of their style. The officials were poor but we allowed them to let their poor decisions ultimately dictate the result. Plenty of chances went begging and Rory's open goal miss in the second half means he'll be wearing the jesters hat for another week. Great Harwood Town were cynical and calculated, I'm glad they got our lowest crowd of the season because they don't deserve the financial windfall that a visit from FC United brings.

1100, while a low figure compard to previous FC attendances, is still half of Great Harwood's total home attendances for last season when they were in Division 1. Context is everything. The money they've made from last night should go a good way towards helping them rebuild their clubhouse which was burnt down last season (which is why they have to groundshare with Accrington Stanley this season). All the bitter blue detractors may sneer at FC, but what exactly have they contributed to non-league football? You can snipe as much as you like at the reasons the club was founded, but the fact is that the FC matchgoing fanbase has been the best thing to happen to every club we've played. We've given them financial security for the next few years and surely that can't be a bad thing.

Tommy my American brother in arms and after your devestating news it appears alms. There was I thinking I might be on a nice little earner and suddenly you have burst the bubble! It seems that while according to the cogniscienti of FC. As for the voting I take your point. Its no good voting if you don't get a choice of what to vote on. What we need are a significant number of like minded people prepared to change the constitution. Using Georges metaphor a little like those who dissented to lead the American War of Independence. You see America can inspire the disenfranchised here too.

Ed if you are going to censor my posting at least be good enough to remove the preceeding sentence when its part of the same point. Can I say that what Glazer is claimed to do to United fans FC can be claimed to do the same to their shareholders?

Thanks Ed.

There aren't any shareholders - FC United is owned by it's members. One member, one vote. No-one makes money from being a member (the only power in being a member is the power to cast your vote at meetings) and the books are independently audited in line with IPS guidelines. If you want to make money from the club or fans, may I suggest placing an advert for your services in the matchday programme? Email commercial@fc-utd.co.uk Someone out there must need a clown.

Ed, while you are censoring that tampa loony's rants, why not just delete them altogether. They are tiresome, boring, offensive, abusive and inaccurate. Why anyone so far removed from England could be so anti FCUoM unless a paid lackey of the glazers beggars belief.

Spot on Johnniejohn! The contributions from the Tampa two are really not worth reproducing. Cue sanctimonious harrumphing from Malcolm on the lines of "free speech achieved by the sacrifice of others". Free speech is not synonymous with gratuitous abuse. You really would not dare come up to an FC fan and say the things that you say on here. Or if you did attempt it, you would be given very short shrift indeed. Posting e-mails on sites like this can be very entertaining, but if abused, it can be a very cowardly way of conducting an argument. It provides a way of offending people merely for the fun of it. Also, the arguments that you have presented over the last eight or nine months do not stand up to any scrutiny, and even if they did, they have been repeated ad nauseam. Our experience of human nature tells us that people don't just take up a cause for no good reason. There has to be something which drives you to churn out these postings day after day, week after week. That "something", in my view, is a financial inducement.

Malcolm, you both did and didn't get what I meant when using American's fight for independence as an example of standing up for what you believe in. FC Utd fans have already broken up from the mother club and started their own independent club so no need to wage your one man crusade!. I doubt in 230 years FC Will be as big as Man Utd but who knows? we won't be here thats for certain. My Personal wish is that we can get rid of Glazer somehow (don't know how) and get MUFC back into the hands of real fans because the atmosphere has changed for the worse! its just not right! and if Glazer puts the prices above the price of inflation once more I will have no option but to hand my season ticket in as I can't afford it, and I know for a fact I'm not the only one thinking about this coming from Swinton where many reds live (many blues are thinking the same too!) Man Utd's ticket price policy has forced the creation of FC UTD so working class fans can watch live football!!

Colm Lambert, exactly my point! Thanks for making it. The members put up all the cash and the Board Boys get all the rewards. I know, I know, your lame reward is getting to root for the team . . . blah blah blah. . . .How is that any different from Man Yoo? . . . I know I know . . .we aren't servicing the Glazer debt . . . boring! Boring! It is great the Board has convinced you that giving your money to them is any different than giving money to the Glazers. Great salesmen those fellows! Maybe the Glazer family should have paid off AW to convince you that MG isn't the anti-christ. But they may have had to dig deep and pay AW 31 pieces of silver.

DONT PAY GLAZER OR WORK FOR SKY, STILL SING CITYS GONA DIE, TWO UNITEDS BUT THE SOUL IS ONE, AS THE BUSBY BABES CARRY ON.

Tommy,
You are putting it like you always have to get something out of it, not everyone is like the Glazer clan with no interests but money! its unbelieveable but true that there are actually people out there that give and expect no financial return back!, i do it myself sometimes with charities. but I only give what I can afford which i think is the point! i'm sure if anyone in FC is creaming off funds illegally they will be punished by the law of the land!

Tommy you mock our answers as being boring, as if we are rabbitting on with the same points but that is simply because those are the answers. If you are tired of them it might be worth you refraining from asking the same questions over and over again with the odd (and it would seem completely unfounded) accusation about Andy Walsh.

If Andy Walsh doesnt do a good job he will eventually be voted out at one of the annual meetings. For the moment, he has successfully helped set up and run a football team. That is something you cannot do without putting in time and effort and so consequently he deserves to be paid.

If your own job doesnt keep you as busy, perhaps your time would be better spent asking other questions that remain unanswered on other boards. Maybe why MUFC are having to advertise their corporate packages these days, why generally premiership game attendences are dropping or if you are a bitter, what city will do to make a profit next season when they don't have a massive transfer sale (SWP) to make the books look pretty?

George if FC were charging less than other clubs in the same league then I would have to agree with your point re working class fans (having said that I do find that slighly patronsing to working class fans). The point is FC actually charge more so if the decision to break away was based purely able on being able to watch football cheaply the alternatives were already in place. The fact is FC have higher aspirations and if they do rise through the pyramid so will the prices. Given the crowds FC attract they could easily charge half and still be well in profit. Colm whether you like the word or not you are a shareholder of FC. Fact.The fact that irrespective of how much you put in it only represent one shre (ie vote) is a nicety. As for the dividend who says that the Americans don't understand irony. My point however is that just like Buidling Societies were carpet bagged and so might FC if sufficient numbers saw that as a financial opportunity (and don't say FC fans are above that). As for tha monkey in Tunbridge wells (more tea Vicar?) when he is able to articulatea point I will respond to it.

There you go again, Malcolm, resorting to personal insults. That is soooo pathetic and sums you up. Articulate you? In your dreams. And FYI, vicars are church of england, I am of the RC persuasion. So dont be so presumptious of who I am, what I do, or what if any faith I might belong to. I would never dream of suggestign you were Jewish like the glazers. But then again, I have seen some US Jewish commentators claiming our hatred of the glazers is due to anti-semitism. No, it is due to the outrageous financial gamble they have taken with the club (and it is not, never has been, nor never will be 'man yoo'). That they are trying to get a gambling site as new shirt sponsor says it all.

Well said George, Swinton. I put half the cost, of what would have been my OT season ticket, into the hat to support getting the club off the ground. It wasn't about making money! I new I wouldn't be making money out of it! The return for me was to be able to watch football with other fans I have an affinity with, without being ripped off. FC United has turned out better than I expected and surprised many more. I am sure you are familiar with the concept of lifecycle costing. My FC season ticket costs one hundred and twelve quid. Add in the 250 I put in the hat and I'm already into payback. Plus, I'm enjoying my football more! That??^TMs what I call economics. But the likes of Tommy will never understand my kind of thinking. He comes form a different culture with different values and has no respect for other people's cultures and values.

George/Sing guy/Swindon Guy (All the same person) -

Thank you for making my point with the Siddy's gonna die comment. This is NOT Manchester United. It isn't and never will be. There isn't any sort of legacy that has been passed from Newton Heath to Man United to FC United. The "Soul" of the fans has not been transferred. Weird FC witchcraft isn't going to resurrect the Bubsy Babes and magically erase the Munich disaster. You have been sold an ill cow and been told it is a Thoroughbred-in-waiting. You've mounted the said Ill Cow and are riding it proudly. "It will be a fast horse someday!" screams the faithful. The salesman of the ill-cow are certainly good with the Propaganda. Stir up some fear among the locals and create some cash and employment for yourself. (It is duly noted that the Glazers' buying of Manchester United basically put "Shareholders United" out of business. So what did SU have to do? They obviously didn't run SU very well if they allowed all the "shares" to be bought out. Oh did Andy not have shares that he sold to Malcolm Glazer? Check the books my good man. The members of Shareholders United sold their "shares" in Manchester United to RED FOOTBALL (the Glazer company) AT A PROFIT. Sold their ownership of Manchester United to the same man they now claim is everything from the anti-christ to the devil himself. A win-win situation for SU indeed! Sell out to Glazer and then sell an ill-cow to a group of people who SHOULD BE ANGRY AT SHAREHOLDERS UNITED FOR ALLOWING MANCHESTER UNITED TO BE PURCHASED IN THE FIRST PLACE. I would think the last place that the "legacy" of Manchester United would be transferred would be to Gigg Lane to a team that is run by those who failed to protect Manchester United from the "evil Americans". I find the irony immense. Basically Andy Walsh was put out of business by Malcolm Glazer, yet in a weird way continues employment on the backs of the negativity and pessimism that he himself creates about the Glazers. 11 years and counting as owners of the Buccaneers, they RESIGNED their franchise quarterback and the team is ready for another Super Bowl run. Next year's prediction, RED FOOTBALL celebrates a couple titles next season!

FCUM isnt Manchester United and I don't think anyone is under any illusions that it is. However if you believe that FCUM isnt connected, even borne from MUFC Tommy, you are sadly mistaken. FCUM fans are at least 99% disenfranchised MUFC fans. The club has deliberately mimicked many aspects of MUFC (colours, songs, dedication to youth) as that was the wish of those fans (it was all voted on). No matter how much you rant and rave, there is no getting away from this. Live with it.

If FCUM becomes a "fast horse" then so be it, if it doesnt then Im sure we will have some fun along the way regardless.

SU sold its shares (along with mine) after Glazer had gained control of the club. If they (and I) hadnt sold the shares then, they would have been worthless. The decision was made on an individual basis by each member (S.U. were legally not allowed to advise any particular action). A number of S.U. members (including myself) sold their shares and donated that to the MUST Pheonix Fund (for when Glazer's plan falls apart, after all someone has to be around to pick up the pieces). Selling at that time (at a profit) meant Glazer had to buy the shares at full whack. This might help ensure he runs out of money sooner and jumps ship.

I have no objection to Glazer being American (and the accusations apparently leveled by some US papers of objections to Glazer being based on his apparent religion/race are ignorant and disgusting). I happen to love America and my favourite place in the world is San Francisco. Everyone I met there was lovely. What I (and Im sure everyone else here) object to is that Glazer is greedy and is placing MUFC in great danger. Andy Walsh is carefully setting about running a club. He gets paid only 6k more than me and no doubt took a significant paycut from whatever full time job he was doing before. Why is he doing it? He no doubt gets a kick out of it. Good on him.