Rebels' Vase hopes smashed to pieces

December 11, 2006

FC UNITED'S dream of an FA Vase final came crashing down as they suffered two red cards and a deciding goal in the last minute of extra time against Quorn.

The Rebels played for an hour - including a bizarre eight minutes of added time - with nine men after the controversial dismissals of defender Liam Coyne and midfielder Josh Howard.

But what had looked like being an heroic rearguard action ended in a shattering 3-2 defeat deep in extra time as Quorn sub Nigel Julien crashed in a brilliant 25-yard winner.

But the talking point was referee Mr Duncan, with Quorn manager Marcus Law sympathising with his opposite number Karl Marginson, saying how well his team had played "considering they were nine men against 12."

Blazing

Marginson was blazing mad with Mr Duncan but had no qualms about the dismissal of Liam Coyne, who appeared to push an opponent in the face during a 21-man brawl.

"I didn't see why he had to red-card their man in particular when there were 20 grown men pushing each other around," said Law.

Marginson was furious at Howard's dismissal on 67 minutes.

He was booked in the first half for dissent and then shown a second yellow for an innocuous foul on Paul White.

"I just hope there was a referees' assessor in the stand because this referee should have to answer to someone," said Marginson.

Quorn took the lead when White seized on Sam Ashton's punch to smash home a half-volley.

Rory Patterson equalised and FC went ahead on 86 minutes when Rob Nugent stabbed the ball home.

Within two minutes the lead was wiped out by Jermaine Gordon and Quorn went on to win the tie with what was virtually the last kick.

What is your verdict on the game? Have your say.

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MadFC, Chumpshire (11/12/2006 at 10:52)

Smashing day for all football fans as Quorn showed that class counts in the end. I really loved it as that last minute shot hit the back of the net sending Quorn through. Crowds disappointing too which for a big game is pretty worrying. Salford are also within three points of FC now so it looks like it could all come crumbling down. Teams that give FC no space or time on the ball always seem to have them over. Margy time for a rethink . As always I am available to give you advice.

Free Red, Manchester, (Accept no imitations) (11/12/2006 at 10:58)

I think we were doing alright playing 11 x 11. When that changed to 9 x 12 we were up against it. The referee was a disgrace and undoubtedly one of the worst I have seen at this level. Our lads played 3-3-2 over an hour tracking back and charging forward to make up for the loss of two men and still managed to score. This had to be the best team effort I have seen from FC. There is no doubt the best team lost, but it might be a blessing in disguise. We have some tough league ties coming up and the league is the priority. If our players play the way they did for the last hour against Quorn our recent bad patch is over. Viva la revolution, come on FC.

Bullseye, On the ockey (11/12/2006 at 11:10)

Smashing, great, super, lets see what you could have won!

TMUF, Manchester (11/12/2006 at 11:31)

Have you any more plans in ousting the Glazers? Or did you FC United cowards completely abandon the great club? I mean didnt the Manchester derby stir up any feelings?

Johnniejohn, tunbridge wells (11/12/2006 at 11:40)

I have seen plenty of FA Cup disappointment in my time with MU. V Norwich at home in the late 60s, 3 semi final matches with Leeds in 1970, Southampton at Wembley. None ever dimmed my hopes for the following year. No doubt multi personality man will be on gloating and talking about the end is nigh. Dream on malc/tommy/chumpshire/another, we might now have to concentrate on the league, but there is no going back. Forza FCUoM.

Johnniejohn, tunbridge wells (11/12/2006 at 11:48)

Sorry TMUF, the manchester derby did not even stir up apathy in me. And what is with all the 'coward' nonsense? We will never put a penny in the glazer franchise. Get over it, the age of witchhunts, martyrdoom, inquisitions and religious persecution are long over. Forza FCUoM

TMUF, Manchester (11/12/2006 at 11:55)

I am sorry but weren't the Glazers shareholders BEFORE the takeover. If you did go before hasnt it occured to you that the money you spent still did get into his back pocket. I say cowardly as it wont be long before every club in the Prem has been taken over. But it has to be 'our fans' who had to prove to everyone how disloyal they really are when the going gets tough

Phil, Lids (11/12/2006 at 12:04)

Really were up against it on saturday and played heroically with nine men. A special mention must go to Matty Taylor, he was playing with a leg injury for most of the match. The lads should hold their heads up high. Thought the atmosphere was cracking and as for the arrival of the police.... have they really got nothing more constructive to be doing than stopping one person getting on the pitch and then scowling at the fans for having the gall to get excited.

NEIL, DROYLSDEN (11/12/2006 at 12:17)

NOT LONG LEFT THE DREAM IS OVER,DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT COMING BACK TO OT.

Free Red, Manchester, (Accept no imitations) (11/12/2006 at 12:38)

NEIL. That thought never crossed my mind and whilst glazer is at OT it never will. Not one penny ever. When glazer has gone if I did go back (and that would be the only reason I would) I won't seek permission of you or any other spineless drone.

The Malcolm Muppet Detector., Not Tampa thank god (11/12/2006 at 13:08)

Well done our lads. Fc's never say die spirit was fantastic. Our support must be the envy of all non league and even some league clubs.

NEIL, DROYLSDEN (11/12/2006 at 13:12)

FREE RED IM SURE THE GLAZERS ARE DEVASTATED THAT YOU DONT COME TO UTD ANYMORE.AS I SAID YOUR DREAM IS NEARLLY AT AN END.GOOD LUCK MATE.(COME ON MAN U)

Johnniejohn, tunbridge wells (11/12/2006 at 13:23)

Eh TMUF? I was a shareholder before the glazers took over too. But do we have to reprise all those arguments? It is not about who the owner is per se, it is about the fact that the glazers, unlike Abramovich, Lerner, the Liverpool Sheik, had to borrow the money to acquire MU, then shifted all the debt onto the club. We the fans had effectively paid for all the upgrades to OT, carrington and big transfers and would continue to fund transfers and other improvements. Instead of your money going towards new players, it is now going to banks and hedge funds with ABSOLUTELY no benefit to either the club, the ground or the fans. And if all the debt is paid off, the only winners will be the glazers who if they so wished, could simply remortgage the club so you and your like could repay it a 3rd 4th 5th time etc etc. What do you mean by 'disloyal' anyway? Blind obedience? Please mr glazer rob me blind, then come back and rob me again loyalty.
You chose to stay, we chose to form a club in line with our values. Get over it. Forza FCUoM

Free Red, Manchester, (Accept no imitations) (11/12/2006 at 13:24)

How can you speak for the fans if every club in the Prem. How do you know how fans of those clubs will react if they had as much debt dumped on them The terraces at other Prem grounds are already half empty so how do you know what fans will do if prices increase out of all proportion. The truth is you haven't a clue what fans of other clubs will do. You're just another loud mouth who can't discriminate between fact and fiction.

TMUF, Manchester (11/12/2006 at 13:45)

The fiction is that fans have been priced out. Our tickets are still cheaper then more then half the prem yet we still get entertained week in week out. The fact you ran away from a club you 'supported' is cowardly. There is no more too it. We changed owners which was always likely and to change clubs was the easy way out. i couldnt imagine leaving United, wouldnt even enter my mind. At the end of the day you chickened out, the reasons I will never understand. yeh there were negatives but to leave just shows how spinelesss you lot are. At the end of the day I suppose the good thing is OT is better off without you

stad, manchester (11/12/2006 at 13:51)

Fantastic effort from the nine men left on the pitch, we came very close to pulling it off against 12 men. That ref is the worst I have ever seen at any level. That`s not sour grapes, if we are outplayed I say so but he really did seem to be going out of his way to make sure we lost.
Also fantastic vocal support which I am sure helped spur the players on to give every ounce of energy they had.
Nice to see the usual suspects on here slagging us off again.
Go and get a life.
If you want to go on paying more and more to watch football then that`s your perogitive but don`t slag me off for having principles and sticking to an affordable budget.

Anthony (Tony P.), Houston, Texas (11/12/2006 at 14:13)

"it wont be long before every club in the Prem has been taken over" - If that statement is true then the cowards are the one's that refuse to take any action to save English football. We'd all be better off starting over in non league like FC did. After all, it would be like the early days of the Football Association. This is what democracy is all about.

FC forever, Cemetery end (11/12/2006 at 14:24)

why should we even be thinking about the Glazers?? thats all in the past, you lot should forget it and go find some city fans to wind up. and don't worry there are a lot of us that don't want to go back to OT. Your parthetic to say the dream is over. We are top of the table by 3 points and have two games in hand. how come some of you are so bothered by FC, what is it?? the fact that its the way football used to be or the fact that your disillusioned by OT aswell. Glazers are in the past. for some people they are the future to. For FC we are our own future

Johnniejohn, tunbridge wells (11/12/2006 at 14:28)

I guess it is also a fiction that first time buyers are being priced out of the housing market. After all, you can now borrow 5X your salary. Debt, schmebt as our multi personalities poster wrote last week. Yes, everyone get behind the glazers, let them eat cake as marie antionette said, or why not bread and dripping, or better still, nothing, blind obedience and 'loyalty' are all that matters, and everyone who says otherwise is a disloyal coward. You tell 'em TMUF. You say you dont understand the likes of us. Fair enough, that tells me a great deal about you. But why are you posting here? Why not stick to adding names to the shopping list of incoming transfers at OT. More hours of harmless and futile exercise.

TMUF, Manchester (11/12/2006 at 14:29)

Anthony, Texas dont you think it will be exciting? I mean if every team has money to compete who knows what could happen each season.

Free Red, Manchester, (Accept no imitations) (11/12/2006 at 14:49)

TMUF. Your exactly like that from Tampa fool. Never answer a question and can't stand the fact you are seen as a two faced spineless coward who didn't have the bottle to stand up to glazer. You know exactly why FC started up but like most pawns didn't have the stomach for the fight. When I said I wasn't for sale I was never going to and never will change my mind. If you enjoy paying off glazers debt then get on with it but don't come complaining to those who don't care what you do. Not one penny to glazer ever. If you think this result changes enything then you are a bigger fool than I thought. End of story.

DonnyRed, Doncaster (11/12/2006 at 16:09)

Surely the relatively poor attendence (yer, terrible for the NWC league) has more to do with derby than anything else. Of course the usual suspects couldnt possibly believe that because it would show your average FC fan is still a Big United fan too. Who would have thunk it?

Anthony (Tony P.), Houston, Texas (11/12/2006 at 16:17)

To TMUF,
If that was sarcasm it was a pretty weak attempt. I actually do think it would be more exciting. And, yes, the league would not be dominated by 3 or 4 clubs like it is now. Football was more interesting in the sixties and seventies when Division One was broadly competitive and a team like Forest could win the league. Now its all about who has the biggest checkbook (and, by the way, that's not United anymore- not until the debt's paid off, anyway).

salford red, salford (11/12/2006 at 17:14)

never mind fc, always the league to go for ,this result should make it interesting ,

Little Jockey, Swinton (11/12/2006 at 17:47)

Am still bouncing off the walls after the Derby win and will be for a long time. As for getting knocked out of the Vase...yes its a disappointment, but its a long season and am sure we will pick ourselves up. As for the attendance...there was some competion down at O/T.

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