Van der Sar: Won’t be thanking his defence for their protection but might not be wholly happy with his display 6
Neville: The steady skipper provided sterling defence and decent crosses 6
Brown: Not his best effort against the tricky Necid and unable to give Reds sound base 5
Evans: Improve late on but was very unsteady in the earlier stages 5
Fabio: Was a rock against Krasic in Moscow but roles reversed in this one 5
Valencia: Kept up his goal form as he refused to get too frustrated 6
Scholes: Typical Scholes goal and would have had more but for impressive keeper Akinfeev 6
Fletcher: Good to have the Scot back and ran himself into ground attempting to get a response 6
Nani: His usual mix of mesmeric tricks and frustrating runs into brick walls 5
Macheda: A respectable effort on his Champions League debut. Two good shots and a header against post 6
Owen: A typical goal for his scrapbook but also some frustrating moments 6
Subs:
Rooney (sub Nani 58) Ignited crowd 6
Evra (sub Fabio 59) Attacked well 5
Obertan (sub Macheda 82) Pegged Russians back late on 5
Not used: Anderson, O’Shea, Gibson, Kuszczak
CSKA Moscow: Akinfeev, A Berezutski, V Berezutski, Ignashevich, Schennikov, Krasic, Semberas, Aldonin, Mamaev (Rahimic 70), Necid, Dzagoev
Goals:
United: Owen (29) Scholes (84)
Georgi Schennikov (own goal) (90)
CSKA Moscow: Dzagoev (25) Krasic (31) V Berezutski (47)
Bookings:
United: Fletcher (49) Macheda (75)
CSKA Moscow: Necid (25) Aldonin (54) Semberas (72, 90)
Semberas sent off (90)
Battle of the Bosses:
Novice Champions League coach Slutski will take more from this than Sir Alex
Referee: Olegario Benquerenca (Portugal) - Had done okay until he messed up the Fletcher penalty shout and a late handball 5
Attendance: 73, 718
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Sam Davis (03/11/2009 at 22:04)
VDS - 5 poor for the first goal, Neville 6 ok, Brown 5 pulled all over the place, Evans 5 see Brown comment, Fabio 4 could not keep the guy in front of him, Nani 5 must be getting frustrated getting yanked all the time because he was not the worst performer out there, Fletcher 5 no authority in midfield did not protect the back 4 at all, Scholes 4 if not for the goal did not do anything, Valencia 5 just too one dimensional, Macheda 5 don't know how he lasted as long as he did, poor marking on their 3rd goal, Owen 5 seems to be missing sitters every game he plays. Rooney 5 needs to take a step back and look at his game lots of poor first touches.
danny, WILMSLOW (03/11/2009 at 22:04)
Neville: The steady skipper provided sterling defence and decent crosses but does not have the attacking qualities of Raphael or Delaet 6
Brown: The Joker once again him and Rio ARE LIKE THE MORCAMBE AND WISE OF FOOTBALL Not his best effort against the tricky Necid and unable to give Reds sound base 3. should be sold in January
Evans: Improve late on but was very unsteady in the earlier stages will never be good enough to lace Piques boots another average player 5
Fabio: One of the best players on the pitch stupid to take him off. 8
Valencia: Kept up his goal form as he refused to get too frustrated getting better 7
Scholes: Typical Scholes goal and would have had more but for impressive keeper Akinfeev 6
Fletcher: He is another nearly nearly man to give him any praise just shows how bad our midfield is response 4
Nani: His usual mix of mesmeric tricks and frustrating runs into brick walls 5
Not in the same class as Obertan or Tosic another one for the door in January
Macheda: A respectable effort on his Champions League debut. Two good shots and a header against post 8. Fergie made a mistake taking him off he is the future
Owen: A typical goal for his scrapbook but also some frustrating moments 7
Subs:
Rooney (sub Nani 58) Ignited crowd 6
Evra (sub Fabio 59) Attacked well 7
Obertan (sub Macheda 82) Pegged Russians back late on 8 Obertan is a great play with so much vision unlike Nani or Park
World-wide-United, Not-in-wasteland (03/11/2009 at 22:06)
nevil 7 did the job
brown 4
evans 5
fabio 5
evra 6
valencia 6
fletcher 6
scholes 6 not much of defencive role
nani 7 good touches and nice pass to owen
obertan 5
owen 5
roony 5
macheda 7
anderson or gibson should have replaced schols
Knickers (03/11/2009 at 22:11)
vds 5 , 3 shot 3 goal..
fabio 4 , is not the attackin force like evra and is not good enough in defence
Brown 3 poor
Evans 5 better then brown
Neville 5, have some good efforts in attack
Fletcher 6, poor 1 half much better in 2 half should had a penalty
Scholes 6 same as fletcher strong finish
Valencia 6 , better in 1 half important goal
Nani 3, is not good enough
Macheda 4 should have made a goal
Owen 5 ok
obertan 6 good when he came in
Rooney 5 ok
Always a Red, Sliema, Malta (03/11/2009 at 22:14)
moorz, Dublin (03/11/2009 at 22:22)
bobbydazzler (03/11/2009 at 22:31)
nev 4
brown 4
evans 6
fabio1
valencia 3
fletch4
scholes 5
nonentity 1
macheda 6.5
owen 4 ( 3 for the goal)
obertan 7
rooney5
tripone, canada (03/11/2009 at 22:32)
4-Brown 5 5-Evans 7 /// Fletch 7, scholes 7 Nani 4(after a fantastic 10 min from Obertan, i hope its Bye Bye Nani), Valencia 7 ///
Owen 6 Macheda 6 (The kid played ok, but is not UTD class (hope i am really wrong, time is on his side)
Rooney,Evra and Obertan 7 each (they changed the game).
Overall I am not happy with UTD, I think we are not as good as our position in the Lg and Camps Lg suggests, we need to get rid of a couple and get a couple in January.
bobbydazzler (03/11/2009 at 22:34)
Solskjaer20Legend, Epsomville (03/11/2009 at 22:36)
Brora boy, Highlands (03/11/2009 at 22:36)
Cyprus Red, Cyprus (03/11/2009 at 22:44)
Matthew Savage (03/11/2009 at 22:50)
Some individual mistakes and profligacy infront of goal cost us tonight but there are some great over-reactions: Sam Davis for one and nanny, WILMSLOW for another.
It comes to something when Nanny is the second most negative on the page. Sam Davis are you City in disguise ?
Shaz Leicester (03/11/2009 at 23:09)
keithmat (03/11/2009 at 23:18)
Robbo, N2409, M16 (04/11/2009 at 00:13)
VDS: 5 - I know he's nearly 50, but he seems to have developed this worrying late career habit of basically never moving unless he's pretty sure he can save it (exhibit A being Messi's not overly brilliant header in Rome).
GN-is-a-Red: 8 - Last 20 minutes, he summoned the spirit of Stevie Coppell, Andrei Kanchelskis and that wantaway Portuguese greaseball and was absolutely storming. Unbelievable overlapping energy and, in the main, quality delivery.
Ab Fab: 5 - Beneath that wide-eyed, innocent-looking exterior, Fabio might actually be the dirtiest player in the Premier League. To be fair, that Krasic was well tasty on the ball. Reckless fouling was definitely required.
We've got Wesley: 5 - Orange-based slackness.
JE: 6 - Improved after a ropey start; some nice tackles and general shepherding antics.
AV: 5 - At the byline, given the choice between (a) crossing with his left foot or (b) crabbing backwards 50 yards to pass inside to Wes, he takes option (b) every sodding time.
SF: 6 - Looked a stonewall pen to me. Mind you, Super Fletch is the consummate midfield professional and, in the context of a difficult game, a tactical dive would not have been inappropriate.
PS: 7 - Along with Rafael da Neviller, was the chief architect of our heroic comeback. Played like an angry wasp after that Russkie hacked him down. Vintage ninja header.
Nani: 6 - He actually wasn't that bad. Having said that, not terribly good either.
EMO: 5 - Honestly, when you see the Liverpool academy producing players of the technical 'quality' of little Micky and Jamie Carragher, it's no wonder chubby Rafa sacked everyone responsible.
KM: 5 - He reminds of that old Sesame Street bit called, if I remember correctly, 'One of these kids is doing his own thing'. 95 per cent of the time, he's completely oblivious to his team-mates and is just sort of trundling about on his own.
Papa Waz: 7 - Made a big difference.
PE: 7 - Linked up well with Orangutang.
GO: 7 - Linked up well avec Patrice.
alan matthews (04/11/2009 at 00:30)
kendownunder, sydney (04/11/2009 at 00:47)
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kendownunder, sydney (04/11/2009 at 00:48)
kendownunder 4/11/09
Dublinhead, Dublin and New York (04/11/2009 at 01:08)
Gary N - 7.5 Good solid display and nice going forward
Jonny Evans - 5
Wes Brown - 5
Fabio - 5
Valencia - 7.5
Fletcher - 7 Spirited
Scholes - 6
Nani - 6 Maddening sometimes
Little Mickey Owen - 6
Machedo - 6 Tricky character
Roo - 7
Evra - 8 Lively and spirited
Obertan - 6 Gave them something to think about on the L
Raju, Katmandu (04/11/2009 at 02:07)
Danny, you are originality defined.
outstation, perth, australia (04/11/2009 at 05:09)
T Carroll (04/11/2009 at 05:43)
Valencia see above, off target defected goal does not make up for a wasted night out right-4.
Owen scored but wasted few other golden opportunities, would give him no better than 5.
Evans and Brown got sliced open on both opening goals. Anything better than a 4 is laughable.
Fabio did not impress, passed directly out of bounds on few occasions and was not solid on defense 4.
Macheda likely at fault for 3 goal with poor marking (Fabio was a drift as well) but was an offensive threat. Bright future. 6.
Neville--best crosses of the game including picture perfect delivery for Scholes' header but would rather see Brown wide right. 6.
Scholes/Fletcher--outside of our central defense getting embarrassed twice, our biggest deficiency last night was our lack of command in the midfield. Very little threat through the middle of the pitch. Neither stamped their influence on the game. In contrast to general performance, Fletcher was robbed on penalty call and Scholes header saves the day. 5 for both.
VDS --could have done better on opening goal but faultless otherwise-6.
Rooney--provided immediate spark as expected but was not his best form. Mind likely elsewhere-6.
Evra--Always dangerous and remains top class, no significant game changing contribution however--6.
Obertan--got a lot of Nani in him for all I can tell, fancy flicks and tricks and has pace but until I see a final ball consistently delivered I am unconvinced. 5.
Gerry, Glastonbury (04/11/2009 at 07:59)
The Nevster – Did a good job on his flank – 7
Wes & JE – Both pulled all over the place and very static at times. Really worrying with Chelsea coming up. Back to their Barnsley form I’m afraid – 4
Fabio – A bit of a mare – 4
Valencia – solid performance but he’s looking very one dimensional – 6
Fletch – Looked a bit rusty at times but gave it his all. Curious booking! – 7
Ginge – Perhaps his pass completion was down a shade but a wonderful range of passing all the same. Several blockbusters and a fine header. His most attacking display for yonks. Easily MOM for us. – 8
Nani – I can’t even be bothered to say it! – 4
Macheda – Very impressive for one so young. Carried the line like a veteran. Some lovely bits of skill and very unlucky not to score. A performance he can be proud
of – 7
Owen – Just how many chances does he need? Without exaggeration he could have 10 goals for us already this season. Not deadly but dreadful in front of goal. Living on his reputation big style. - 6
Frank Old Trafford (04/11/2009 at 08:19)
People believing some of the hacks blaming Kiko for the 3rd goal should smell the coffee. Blaming our centre forward for his defending?? Barmy, I suppose Berba would have done better, hah ha.
fabio, Wes, Evans:- poor. VDS, Nani, DF, Scholes:- average. Gary, Valencia, Owen, Kiko:- Good. Subs all good.