I think he should be a regular to start heis world class you would hardly know he had been out so long.
Lets hope he gets his chance Like Fletcher who played over a hundred games before he became squad class.

Hope he starts tomorrow so he can get that miss out of his head.He has real talent, i think anyone can see that if you'v watched him a few times.He's one of the few players that every time he gets the ball he puts you on the edge of your seat.Once hes got a few games under his belt everyone will start to see he has that bit of star dust.If he start's tomorrow then i will be really excited about the game.

this lad has great potential lets hope the pressure of playing for us doesn't affect him as it has done with so many other players,ie wallace,birtles,davenport etc, sam allardice highlighted it in his berbatov article.

I'd be surprised if he's ready for 2 games within 4 days, but it'd be good to see him get 45 minutes. Guess it depends on how SAF wants to prepare him for Chelsea on sunday!

Drago 34 I agree with you 100% also he can take the pressure he will thrive on it like King Eric!

He was nervous and fluffed a few chances but did far more than Nani did in the 20 mins or so he was on the pitch. Nani has to go! How many chances will this fool get.............

I think that linesman was nervous too in flagging offside a perfectly legitimate Blackburn goal.
The official was right in line with the incident so I fail to see any reason for him to put his flag up apart from nervousness it was very bazzare..... THERES NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT!

When learning to ride a bike and you fall off, what's the best thing you should do? Right, get back on. Same for an understandably nervous young player thrown into United's first team at Old Trafford — get him back on the pitch asap, again, probably as a sub. OK, so he fluffed an easy chance. He wasn't the first player to do that — and he certainly won't be the last. Michael Owen missed an equally easy opportunity a few minutes later. Fortunately we still won the game.

I reckon SAF has got far more sense than to give the lad a hard time. Obertan showed some good touches, although he is very slightly built.

He did okay,should have scored but at least ran forward with the ball,a bit worried that we seem to have wasted 8million on tosic as surely he should be getting a chance before a player making a debut coming back from injury.

Duunee from wimpslow is at it again.....concentrate on your performance at St.Andrews (Well, Given's performance) yesterday & leave this site alone.

Right, on to the Man in question. I didn't want to be too critical after Barnsley, as he did ok in the first half but if you check my comments out, i was concerned & suggested that Bellion had replaced him at HT. Ok, so it was slightly tongue in cheek! A mate asked me how good was he though & i couldn't really answer him. "that tells me all i need to know to know" he replied. I took that mate on Saturday.....& now he says he knows in his own mind !!

I'm sorry, & it's a harsh world, but if this lad makes it at Utd, well,...... i don't know what i'll be. When Larry White is gobsmacked that Utd have signed him.....thats good enough for me! To put it in context, there was that Buzz in the ground after his miss on Saturday. The buzz, normally reserved for a piece of Ronaldo magic!! ;)

It wasn't just that miss, he dribbled the ball out of play too ffs and took a shot (going for glory, fair enough) from a tightish angle with Owen in the middle, waiting for a tap in. Ok, some of it could have been nerves but the lad just doesn't look a footballer. I hope i'm wrong but he makes Nini look like Ronaldinho (albeit with a mental block! ). If i'm wrong, you can blast me on this site forever.......i'm that confident !!

I said it last week & NOW i'm pinning my colours to the mast.......he is .....Daveed BELLION, re-incarnated (with a touch of Willy Prunier) & stretched !! & His face is as long as Scholesy!! lol.

& I'm afraid he'll become bait for a norwegian football commentator should we ever lose over there in the CL........ Massimo Taibi, Eric Djemba-Djemba-Djemba, Liam Miller, William Prunier, Daveeeeeed Bellion, Dong Fangzou, Gabriel Obertan.....your boys took one hell of a beating tonight !

happy days.

Good job Nani didn't miss those chances or he would have been hung drawn and quartered by now. The best thing about Obertan for some people seems to be that he is not Nani. They were shocking misses and his first touch is in the Park class. He looks Ok, but then so did Bellion, but he's got to do a lot more to justify the wetting of knickers seen on here.

This attitude shows why SAF is such a successful manager. What has it to do with the Balckburn goal (which probably should have been allowed) other than allowing the paranoid Knott to display his bitter roots again. He must be totally consumed by anger and jealousy.

balders, sorry mate but ive got to disagree! to write off a 20 year old lad who has only made 2 sub appearances seems a little ridiculous to me! i agree he looked very nervous and should have scored but even the greats have missed open nets (giggs vs arsenal). i think given time and opportunity he can develpe into a player that offers that bit of flair we've missed since the ronaldo days.

finally, im glad your so confident that he will fail (captain of the pub quiz team by any chance?) but i will be reserving my judgements until he's been given a few more opportunities.

Balders!, W3106, Tier2 2/11/2009 at 10:41

I think you're being a bit harsh on Obertan simply because its too soon if he's still missing the same opportunities in 8-9 games time then I'd agree....maybe :p

Ted "know" knott - too busy commenting on United again then? I guess you have to when despite all the billions you are counting your lucky starts coming out of Birmingham with a point.

Balders!, W3106, Tier2

Ok shall we just get rid of him now then? I mean first team debut, on for 20 mins, only played two lower key matches before it and recovering from a long term back injury, yeah we have a clear view of what he'll be like in the future. Guessing your someone who wanted Fletcher sold for years?

Jees, give the guy a chance. You honestly cant judge him yet. I thought he looked promising. Nothing too special but he is young and will improve. You seriously cant call him another Bellion already! Crazy.

Come on lads listen to yourselves eh?? Is this really the way we like to do things, already judging someone as a failure after a game and a bit??? Is this the way we now judge people, make them a failure unless they have a blinding debut?

Yes he missed a sitter on saturday, but to already have him down as a failure is wrong, just wrong!!!!

I hope he makes it. If he does it will buck a long trend of failed bargain basement buys. You have to go back to Solksjaer, Johnsen and Cantona for real inspiration in that part of the transfer market.

Obertan cost the same as Van Persie. If he turns out to be half as good, it will have been successful business. It would be better business I feel to shake up and invest in our lacklustre scouting set-up which seems to get more wrong than right.

Already, Obertan has overtaken the more expensive and experienced Tosic. How did that happen?

The best i saw from Obertan was his ability to get to scoring positions. Few players are good at that. And as long as he positions himself correctly and chances keep coming he'll definitely start converting some sooner or later. I saw the nerves too, but i thought he grew stronger as the match wore on. If only he had converted one chance...

Man of the Match. Like watching Bambi take his first steps...bless him!

Can't understand people writing off Obertan after a substitute appearance for his Premier League debut. That's fickleness gone mad.

If any of you had seen him for the French U-16 and U-17 teams you'd know that the lad has sufficient talent to be a major success at United. At that age he was one of the hottest talents in Europe and was covetted by the biggest teams, including United. He went to Bordeaux and couldn't break into the side at the age of 17 but he had an undiagnosed back problem to contend with too. As with all youngsters coming to United, we know he'll be skillful but the key is whether he has the mental attributes to make it here. I'm confident that he has. Given a year or so learning the United way and I think he'll be a regular starter and scorer.

ok, there's an element of jest in some of my comments......we on these pages aren't SaF after all....though some think they are !! & don't get me wrong, i hope he turns out to be the buy of the century. I'll support him in every game he plays. After 'that miss' - & believe me it was worse when you were there - on Saturday i kept cheering him on! " Go-on Bellion lad" ;)

Sorry,I just don't see it - that he'll ever be good enough for us..... but i'm just one red !! I said exactly the same on these pages after Dong played against Coventry & only BobbyD said anything similar. I'm only expressing my belief, that's diffrent from saying the lad is a failure. i see a far better technical footballer in Tosic. One who is gifted with awareness but obviously has some size/strength issues to overcome if HE wants to make it in English football. He's played plenty of times for his country though whereas Belliontan has just created a murmour in his country because they can't believe we've signed him!!

Anyway, my comments aren't based on him missing a 'gobber', they're based on his movement, his technical ability etc..... You can tell a footballer, as they say!

Bellion is Back !

There is not much wrong with standing by your own judgement as Balders has done. If he is wrong he will freely hold his hands up.

My opinion is this :-

Obertan was a gamble born of having no money to spend. A player with ability as a youngster and the hope that whilst he hasnt really developed as thought initially, he could develop at United. The biggest suprise to his former bosses was that he was mentally fragile, Bordeaux didnt even play him last season and sent him to a lower club. After the misery of Saturdays misses, particularly the second miss I have to question whether he will get past that moment. Particularly after he ran the ball out of play with his first touch. I wasnt impressed an ounce with his performance on Saturday to be honest. He looked nervous,clumbsy and out of his depth. A few players have had a bit of a mare on there debut and become greats for the club. Pally,Coley,Evra to name a few but these are exceptions to a rule and all were single minded, strong mentally and absolutely top class players. I wont hold my breath on Obertan. Its rare that any player who looks as poor as he did on Saturday transforms into a truely great player, and thats what we are lacking. Not decent players or even good players, we have loads of them. We need a couple of really great players. My big hope is Ljajic who arrives in January.

Good comments Balders, at least they have some criteria to them. In fact Bellion is doing quite well in France, in fact he's the one who was keeping Obertan out of the team, do you hear warning bells?

People seem to see him as some kind of saviour, he isn't. Better to give Nani some support and hope he improves, he's only 22 for crying out.....

Balders, I'm surprised at you, you're usually a sensible poster. Obertan WILL make it, how can you judge him after his 1st team appearance? Give the lad a chance, he's been superb in the reserves. Nerves affected him, he'll do ok at United.