about right apart from wes and rio, who deserved 3 each.

How can you give Giggs a 7 when by your own admission he only played half a game. Pity Fergie didn't notice that. Fletcher was MOM for me.

Just finished watching WBA and Hull. Great game. Lots of skill and excitement. A real tonic after the dissappointment of Man.U's lethargic display. Looking forward to the clash at OT next week. If we don't show up to play, Phil Brown will have his team run us off the park. If we do show up, we will win because of the quality we do have. It's no fluke Hull are where they are. It should be a great game.

Woeful display today, very disappointing, no one addressed the problems on the pitch or off it. Very poor.

Why does Fergie ALWAYS wait till we conceed a goal before he makes changes? 10 minutes into the 2nd half it was obvious to anyone watching today that Everton were getting on top and were threatening to score. Fergie should have got Anderson and Tevez on then, not wait for the inevitable goal and THEN make changes to chase the game. Liverpool away, Chelsea away and now Everton away there is a trend emerging: Set off playing well, go infront, pack in attacking, try to defend, give the initiative to the home team, conceed and dro either 2 or 3 points. Away from home its about time we pressed on after scoring 1st and got a 2nd or 3rd goal to make the game safe.

I just feel that the ratings should be 0-10 instead of 5-10. 0 being absolute and utter crap. 10 being outstanding for the full 90 minutes.
My cleaner's sister's son in law's neighbour two doors down was at the game and thought Rio, Wes, Ronny and Park were crap. Rooney seemed more concerned with the crowd who were relentless but apart from that we got some good training ground routines down pat and the ref seemed to be having a good time watching Ronny get hacked every time he got the ball and you have to love the double hack with Neville pleading that he only caught him with one set of studs. I'm not looking forward to Hull.

I think we're missing Queiros' tactical nous and input.
The points should have been in the bag in the first half.
Park was the most influential player and yet he was sacrificed.
Rio went to sleep again.
Still the season is still young.

Very good first half, woeful second. Agree rising a question about Sir Alex' handling when we started to loose grip of the game just like we did against Liverpool. Everton used the same tactics and outmuscled us and we just didn't respond.

Sad to see how Rooney lost the plot. He showed very much that he hasn't matured enough yet. He might kiss the badge now and again, but doing it today was, a matter ofg cact, putting hinmmself before the team!

Really need two sets of scores one for each half, Giggs was great in the first half and rubbish in the second Avg 4.5, Fletcher was great in the first half and Ok in the second but was playing on his own most of the time in CM 7, I thought Berbatov was crap all the way through 3, and Ronaldo looked like a stupid petulant kid who has lost his ability! 2, Park rubbish all the way through!!

But SAF and MP must get 0 each, firstly for playing this team, secondly for playing Park (at all and ever again), thridly for taking off Rooney (which was Ok) and NOT putting Tevez on immediately,fourthly for leaving Giggs on when he was obviously beat, a couple of good substitutions Anderson and Tevez for Giggs and Rooney immediatley would have been better and Subbing Park after 5mins of the game would have made perfect sense!!! having made the mistake of putting him on in the firts place!!!!

These rating are a joke. Wes 5 Rio 4 Vidic 5 Evra 7 Ronnie 6 Fletch 6 Giggs 6 Park 5 Rooney 3 Berbatov 3. These rating are much more to what I saw on the pitch. Rooney did not show up today probably too much celebrating his birthday. Did not influence the game at all. I thought Tevez probably should have started this game. Berbatov for 30 mil quid surely is not what you want. Nice little flicks and stuff but that is it. For that kind of money you want someone who will take over a game. He is yet to do that in any game. I think we brought a lemon or he just does not realize he is playing at United and that strolling around the pit will not cut it. Someone should tell him that at United you get every other clubs best game no matter where they are in the table. Roonie still looks a little light. We need Carrick back badly. I think maybe we were lucky to get a point today as the midfield just cave in under the pressure.

Khalad Mahmood, interesting observation there. Something's clearly not functioning since the worrying trend seen at Anfield, Stamford Bridge and Goodison (starting well but fading badly) speaks for itself.

Come back CQ!

These ratings are a complete joke! What does MEN do? Call out a player then ask a monkey to pick a number??

8 van der Sar: Solid display. Didn't let anything past. Well anything that he could help.

5 Brown: One mistake. but a half decent performance

4 Ferdinand: Fell asleep for a part of the game and just got run over. Check for skid marks

6 Vidic: Absolute rock. Some miscommunication s with VDS. But no biggy

7 Evra: Absolutley solid in the back. Helped Vidic out all the time.

5 Ronaldo: Boy isn't up to the mark just yet. Needed to be benched today.

8 Fletcher: Solid performance again. Brilliant first touch and finish for the goal. Was back helping the defence and helped stop a number of sticky situations

6 Giggs: Good performance. Really needed his experience and used it well.

6 Park: Hard working as always. But nothing special

5 Rooney: Missed that spark.

6 Berbatov: Had a good start but just not enough support from the ref.

Marks generous for Ronny and berb should both have only 3 Wes should have a 6 because if it had not been for him and yes he made a couple of mistakes but the amount of time he made last ditch blocks. Rio just seemed to go to sleep for the second half 4 Fletcher 5 just for his goal but like giggs 5 disappeared for the second half. Rooney 6 and rightly taken off to save him a red although I did not think he diserved a card anyway.

If we were to choose our player of the year so far, it would be Darren Fletcher, both because he has improved immensely and because no one else has stepped as convincingly to the plate.

That fella Fellaini reminds me of the character Screech from 'Saved by the Bell'.

A draw is not the end of the world, though this biting credit crunch might be. Funny how a random draw exposes Alex Ferguson for the fraud coach that he is, at least according to some so-called United fans who have never seen a game end in a draw before.

Dissapointing to throw the points away.Everton were told to hack us down at every oportunity after the second half but we should have the experience to deal.Nani`s days should be over as when ever he has come on he has never managed to turn the game around and the thickhead never listens.Get rid of him and Ronaldo could have finished it for us with that sitter but missed but then again how many important goals has he scored.I thought the only one who would have finished for us today was Rooney but was unfortunately subbed.He only needed an inch but Everton wouldn`t give but maybe he would have got it nearer the end.

Midfield again outmuscled, getting to be atrend now,giggs's pasing in the first half was excellent for a change but the minute moyes said get into them the game the result walked away, park and fletch are too lightweight, and ronaldo and giggs spent half the time on there bum waving there arms,nani doesn't help when he has been intoduced this season so far as he can no longer cross and him and ronaldo are playing a game with each other on who can be the greediest or choose the wrong pass, and anderson is going backwards from last season,if fletcher cost 18million and hadn't scored or put in any display so far this season there would be hundreds on here calling for his head. Of course we have a player in hargreaves especially for this kind of game but if he's not an incentive to bring in reinforcements in january nothing is.
Also I cant see how tevez has lost his place over berbatov, last season with him and rooney the opposition defence never got a minutes peace and we scored goals, this season we are low scorers and berbatov seems to be in midfield, again we have no striker in the box, also apart from his tap in goals so far I can only remember him having one shot at goal at that was against chelsea, if zaki's buy out clause is 7million i'd be giving old friend bruce a call come january also. Hopefully pool and chelsea get players sent off etc and draw to salvage the weekend.

I prefer Tevez to Berbatov, he displays more heart, more passion for the game. Berbatov's most singular virtue is his moody disposition. A role in some French noir film would demonstrate and promote his talents to much better effect.

first half
vds 6 wes 8 rio vidic 8 8 evra 8
ron 6 giggs 9 fletch 9 park 5
beba 6 rooney 5

2nd half
vds 7 wes 3 rio 3 vidic 5 evra 7
ron 4 giggs 7 fletch 7 park 4
beba 4 rooney 4

saf should have made changes earlier yet again we did'nt turn up for 2nd half.

Atleast this result is better than Chelesea's home defeat to rivals Liverpool.
Instead of whining we have to understand that we are closer to chelsea now, 5pt gap with a game in hand which can safely be said as a 2pt gap & considering they will cum to OT later this season where I think we can beat them this season we can ahead of the blues.Liverpool extending their lead doesnt worry me as it is inevitable that they will lose points eventually once their star players get injured.They have been more fortunate then Man.utd & chelsea in terms of the injuries the players sustained.Im confident we will be up there in the epl table come February.Up the reds

- omo - the Liverpool win at Chelsea is a cracking result for us. Notwithstanding their good start, the Scousers will be also rans in third, half dozen points behind United and Chelsea.

As for our game, most people who saw it spotted the good performances by Fletcher (MOM) and Giggs. VdS, Brown, Rio (soft goal from straightforward cross) and Berbatov and put in poor displays - Anderson/Nani were no better as subs. Odd that Fergie replaced Rooney (although rightly subbed for his own good) with Nani rather than Tevez and I would agree than the Apache should have been on the pitch earlier.

There will be the usual knee-jerk reactions and doom and gloom but Everton will be in the UEFA cup spots come the end of the season and while we should have won the game, taking only a point at Goodison is no disgrace.

Why does he play Park when there are far better options like Tevez?Looking at the KO time and considering that it was not on TV,may we assume the match was being shown in the Far East?

Tevez is just the man for a match like this.Non stop running and harrassment of the oppositions defence - he wont back off!!
Dont think we can afford 3 players on the pitch at the one time who cannot track back effectively to help the team ie:Ronaldo,Nani and Berbatov. It wont work in the hundred mile an hour Premiership.
We are getting like Arsenal - pretty pattens but no real substance when the going gets rough. Its not enough to put in a magnificent performance, seem like world beaters and then drop points to the likes of Newcastle and Everton.
I got carried away with Rooney against Celtic - we still miss Roy Keane the greatest enforcer of all!!

Fives for all except VDS (6) and sevens for Giggs and Fletcher.

Not much to add that hasn't been said already. Great start, great goal, we needed a second goal in the first half to secure the game. Everton were always going to fly out of the traps in the second half but it still doesn't explain why Brown, Rio, Vidic, Evra, Ronaldo, Park, Berbatov and Rooney should all dip to their worst form in years in the second half.

I felt sorry for Fletcher being sacrificed for a forward. I thought Tevez could have come on earlier. Thought Park could have been sub'ed sooner.

Tevez is just the man for a match like this.Non stop running and harrassment of the oppositions defence - he wont back off!! Dont think we can afford 3 players on the pitch at the one time who cannot track back effectively to help the team ie:Ronaldo,Nani and Berbatov.
VERY TRUE!

A few points...

1. In the cold light of a Monday morning, credit to Everton; they went up three levels second half and, as Moyes said after the game, they couldn't have sustained that for 90 minutes.

2. I think too many of the players had been listening to Strachan midweek and, particularly after the first half stroll, were casually daydreaming about being the 'best team in Europe'.

3. Leadership issues. Shame Citizen Nev wasn't playing as he might have done something sooner about the second half sloppiness/lack of fight. We're still not a team packed with natural talkers/organisers.

4. Park is rubbish.

5. Credit to Fergie for subbing Rooney. I hate any form of badge kissing and it only helped Everton by rousing the crowd. You're 23, Waz: it's not big and it's not clever.

6. Sustaining a performance. It's annoying, to say the least, that we've now scored first at Anfield, Stamford Bridge and Goodison and still only taken two points. Worse than that, we started all three games really well before, not just tailing off a bit, completely collapsing.

Yesterday it was particularly galling (despite a very helpful result) watching Liverpool continuing to try and play progressively (passing the ball thoughtfully) deep into the second half away at Chelsea, at a time when we would have reverted to our, by now traditional, 'sit deep, time-waste and try and hang on' little team-style panicking.

7. Hargreaves/midfield battling. Is Hargreaves finished? It appears he might be. If so, we need a new player of that type (as Fergie alleged when he bought him, he's supposed to give us that extra defensive bite). Diarra? Palacios? Either would be useful.

8. Substitutions/the bench. Perhaps it's unfair to judge on the selective editing of tv pictures, but when things are going badly, the lack of any dynamism (or even movement) from Micky, Fergie and Rene is extremely frustrating. Micky just looks gormless, Rene just looks worried, while Fergie just looks old and blotchy. In all three games the tide had clearly turned against the team and nothing was done, substitution-wise, until it was far, far too late.