Manchester United1 - Newcastle United1
Star man: Nemanja Vidic
Barclays Premier League
Rated by Stuart Mathieson
Saturday 26 November, 15:00
Average Player Rating: This Match
Average Player Rating: 2011-2012 Season
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This match player rankings by Fans
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- 1. Nemanja Vidic
- 2. David De Gea
- 3. Ryan Giggs
- 4. Patrice Evra
- 5. Michael Carrick
- 6. Rio Ferdinand
- 7. Fábio
- 8. Javier Hernandez
- 9. Chris Smalling
- 10. Wayne Rooney
- 11. Federico Macheda
- 12. Nani
- 13. Ashley Young
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Play Berbatov he would have opened Newcastles defence up and he was last seasons top goalscorer.
Cannot believe Nani five, for me he looked the most threatening of our players, capable of going inside or down the channels and played some lovely through balls. He should have been used far more than Young who to me seems afraid to go down the line, always looking to cut back and get the ball on his right foot.
None of the players deserve more than a 3. They simply are no more champion stuff...
Nani was one of our major threats along with Giggs. If it hadn't been De Gea, we would have lost. We are not going to win anything this year!
David De Gea 7, Nemanja Vidic 9, Fábio 5, Rio Ferdinand 7, Patrice Evra 8, Ryan Giggs 8, Michael Carrick 7, Ashley Young 1, Nani 3, Wayne Rooney 5, Javier Hernandez 5, Chris Smalling 5, Federico Macheda 5
we once had the best midfield in world football and two fantastic wingers . NOT ANYMORE
we once had the best midfield in world football and two fantastic wingers . NOT ANYMORE
Evra...8??? Based on what? He got tortured in the first half by Obertan, then had two good runs in the 2nd half but his final ball for both was poor
For me our MotM was Carrick. For them, the linesman.
ridiculous ratings from MEN. Evra and Giggs getting 8 Vidic 9 . Macheda missed free header and that is a lively effort. Young got into the thick of it (missed a shot after stopping the ball and using time to take aim and measure his shot). Nani on the other hand was our best player and he gets the 5 !! stuart is again rating under the influence.
What joke ratings. Hernandez was absolutely appalling, bringing home to roost in telling fashion just what his constant offside play costs United - today it was a deciding goal. The kid plays offside so often that he must be a complete idiot, because anyone else would have heeded the lessons by now and realized that he has the speed and acceleration to break the defensive line without looking for advantages. Young was also insipid, and not only squandered a number of gilt-edged chances, but constantly sprayed passes and crosses all over the place.
As for Rooney? As ever, the silence regarding his poor performances remains deafening. Never mind the missed chances - again. Never mind how pathetic he is at trying to beat defenders one-on-one, being dispossessed with embarrassing ease. And how many games has it been now since 'Mr. consistency' scored a goal for United, making it abundantly clear that he's in yet another of his lean periods. The same people who never tire of slagging off Berbatov are the same ones who perennially spring to the defense of the game's most over-rated player. Countless missed or weak shots are lauded as 'threatening' or 'fine efforts' by an individual 'taking the fight' to the opposition and showing some much needed mongrel. Berbatov comes off the bench after hardly any time on the pitch this season to keep his skills finely honed, misses one difficult chance, and despite putting in a near MOM performance, gets slated for the miss. Rooney's hot and cold streaks are constantly excused with 'he'll come round eventually, he always does'. Berbatov goes for 2 - 3 games without scoring, and regardless of the many other ways he influences a game, gets pilloried for being 'inconsistent' - very rich, given Rooney's stellar record for inconsistency. Rooney runs up and down the pitch and is admired for his grit, determination, and heart - never mind how often he gives the ball away in defense, how he can't hold the ball against even one defender and is constantly forced to pass away, and how Mr 'heart and hustle' is just as likely as any other player to be seen walking or strolling around in the middle of the play taking a breather. Berba effortlessly holds the ball against 2 - 3 defenders and makes them look silly if they come at him, tracks back frequently to put in fine tackles or interception (watch a replay of his midweek performance) and RARELY gives the ball away when doing so - yet receives ZERO credit for all that work. Rooney gets exasperated/pissed off with his team mates (as he frequently does) gesticulates angrily at them, and makes his feelings obvious to everyone - for this he's lauded as the soul of the team, the lion-hearted soldeir in the trenches exhorting his team mates to greater heights. Berbatov waves his arms about at yet another stupid piece of play (often Rooney) and is slated by one and all for being sullen and lacking in team ethic! This is of course the same individual who's acted with absolute class over the last 12 months, been an absolute gentleman who's never uttered anything but positive things about United despite being treated in the most appalling fashion by a blinkered manager who applies two sets of rules for his players - one for Rooney and another for the rest. Star man Rooney of course is the slug who sullied the team's reputation with his well-publicized antics behind his pregnant wife's back, held the team hostage last year with demands to be traded, had himself suspended through his inability to control his anger and language, and repeatedly costs his team, both domestically and internationally, through his penchant for getting sent off and suspended.
Of course, we're only addressing the areas where direct comparisons can be made. When it comes to sheer skill, fine touch, football intelligence, spacial and situational awareness, and selfless play, the Bulgarian is in a class of his own, with daylight second.
If people want the answer to what ails United it's Rooney, because his technical and physical deficiencies dictate that United play to his strengths, even if the collective ends up suffering as a result. The trade-off can be covered against lesser teams, but against better sides with quality midfields his weaknesses, and those imposes on United, get exploited.
There was never any chance that United could have beaten Barcelona in the most recent CL final, as was obvious from the moment the team line-up was announced. Fergie went for the English game of heart and hustle, stripped an already weak midfield bare by giving Rooney the extra striker he craves to play behind of, and basically committed football suicide by doing so. United on the day, and Rooney on the whole, epitomize all that's wrong with British football - and a fan base that can't get past supporting an outdated form of football that the rest of the world has passed by in pursuit of a sounder, more technical and possession-based form of the game.United would have stood a much better chance of success by letting loose its own creative geniuses, Berbatov and Nani, against the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, and Messi, especially given that the back four were supposed to be Barcelona's weak area. A gamble it may have been, but it was surely a better option than that taken by Fergie.
As for Rooney? As ever, the silence regarding his poor performances remains deafening. Never mind the missed chances - again. Never mind how pathetic he is at trying to beat defenders one-on-one, being dispossessed with embarrassing ease. And how many games has it been now since 'Mr. consistency' scored a goal for United, making it abundantly clear that he's in yet another of his lean periods. The same people who never tire of slagging off Berbatov are the same ones who perennially spring to the defense of the game's most over-rated player. Countless missed or weak shots are lauded as 'threatening' or 'fine efforts' by an individual 'taking the fight' to the opposition and showing some much needed mongrel. Berbatov comes off the bench after hardly any time on the pitch this season to keep his skills finely honed, misses one difficult chance, and despite putting in a near MOM performance, gets slated for the miss. Rooney's hot and cold streaks are constantly excused with 'he'll come round eventually, he always does'. Berbatov goes for 2 - 3 games without scoring, and regardless of the many other ways he influences a game, gets pilloried for being 'inconsistent' - very rich, given Rooney's stellar record for inconsistency. Rooney runs up and down the pitch and is admired for his grit, determination, and heart - never mind how often he gives the ball away in defense, how he can't hold the ball against even one defender and is constantly forced to pass away, and how Mr 'heart and hustle' is just as likely as any other player to be seen walking or strolling around in the middle of the play taking a breather. Berba effortlessly holds the ball against 2 - 3 defenders and makes them look silly if they come at him, tracks back frequently to put in fine tackles or interception (watch a replay of his midweek performance) and RARELY gives the ball away when doing so - yet receives ZERO credit for all that work. Rooney gets exasperated/pissed off with his team mates (as he frequently does) gesticulates angrily at them, and makes his feelings obvious to everyone - for this he's lauded as the soul of the team, the lion-hearted soldeir in the trenches exhorting his team mates to greater heights. Berbatov waves his arms about at yet another stupid piece of play (often Rooney) and is slated by one and all for being sullen and lacking in team ethic! This is of course the same individual who's acted with absolute class over the last 12 months, been an absolute gentleman who's never uttered anything but positive things about United despite being treated in the most appalling fashion by a blinkered manager who applies two sets of rules for his players - one for Rooney and another for the rest. Star man Rooney of course is the slug who sullied the team's reputation with his well-publicized antics behind his pregnant wife's back, held the team hostage last year with demands to be traded, had himself suspended through his inability to control his anger and language, and repeatedly costs his team, both domestically and internationally, through his penchant for getting sent off and suspended.
Of course, we're only addressing the areas where direct comparisons can be made. When it comes to sheer skill, fine touch, football intelligence, spacial and situational awareness, and selfless play, the Bulgarian is in a class of his own, with daylight second.
If people want the answer to what ails United it's Rooney, because his technical and physical deficiencies dictate that United play to his strengths, even if the collective ends up suffering as a result. The trade-off can be covered against lesser teams, but against better sides with quality midfields his weaknesses, and those imposes on United, get exploited.
There was never any chance that United could have beaten Barcelona in the most recent CL final, as was obvious from the moment the team line-up was announced. Fergie went for the English game of heart and hustle, stripped an already weak midfield bare by giving Rooney the extra striker he craves to play behind of, and basically committed football suicide by doing so. United on the day, and Rooney on the whole, epitomize all that's wrong with British football - and a fan base that can't get past supporting an outdated form of football that the rest of the world has passed by in pursuit of a sounder, more technical and possession-based form of the game.United would have stood a much better chance of success by letting loose its own creative geniuses, Berbatov and Nani, against the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, and Messi, especially given that the back four were supposed to be Barcelona's weak area. A gamble it may have been, but it was surely a better option than that taken by Fergie.
If Berbatov had played he would given a 9.9 for sure.
Timbo59 ... couldn't agree more! Bravo!
Unfortunately, so many know so little about football.
Unfortunately, so many know so little about football.
timbo59 cracking post and spot on Rooney was terrible yesterday and your right he does not have half the Skill of Berba he does not hold the ball up and is first touch is that of a mule he also looks no where near scoring goals yet again, the only problem i have with Berba is that he holds the ball up to long drifts out wide with it and slows us down even more , yesterday though was an improvement if we are honest we should have scored six and who knows next time out we might just do that but then again SAF might make 5 changes .
Says it all when the keeper and a central defender are the star men in a home match. Let's face it, we're simply not good enough. Never threatened despite a lot of possession. Our luck seems to have run out -- even if our goal was a handball.
Should have gone to Specsavers!
The team that wouldn't die (26/11/2011 at 18:21)