Tough draw. The Owls have a decent season so far. I expect a good crowd. Nice memories when we last played them (with a brilliant Goater).
Glad we didn't draw a 1st or 2nd division side away.

Oh well, we'll be able to concentrate on the league!

Good, we can get the bus to this one! Funnily enough, I was talking to a couple of Wednesdayites on sat and one of them predicted this draw. It will be tough but we should get the whole end behind the goal (loads of tickets) and therefore a good atmosphere. I'd rather go to a big ground than another Chesterfield or Donny, given recent results. If we can't beat them at Hillsborough then we should be well capable of getting them back home to settle it! COME ON CITY!

Please, not a Div 1 team away from home. Please, not a Div 1 team away from home.....Doh!!

Wednesday's Glenn Whelan, one of the many players discarded by Clueless Keegan without having been given barely a sniff, will be well fired up for this one!

Easy! The Owls are terrible. I repeat of the 6-2 here i think!!!

Got disaster written all over it.
But I think we should fair better than in previous years

BertieBlueNose - or is he yet another player discarded by Keegan and since proving himself not to be good enough for the Premiership convincingly? Shuker, Elliot, McCarthy - all of them had fans who'd never seen them carping on about them and all of them have pretty much failed to prove themselves as top class players.

Has got "Another City Exit" written all over it. Oh well beating Mank Utd. will more than make up for it.

Yeah, Bertie, Kevin Keegan was so clueless that we won the 2nd Division Championship playing the best football seen at City for many a year, and then he went on to establish us in the top flight. Really clueless wasn't he? Yeah, right, Bertie, no one enjoyed it. Berkovic, no he wasn't any good either, nor Ali Benarbia...shocking...don't know why we bothered...In fact I'm a ghost...wooooo.....I actually slashed my wrists having to watch that rubbish under Keegan....woooo...be afraid, be very afraid....I am back to haunt you...

Gareth - you've done an excellent job of putting words into my mouth I neither said nor wrote. We do NOT know if Glenn Whelan would have been good enough for the Premiership. My point was that Clueless Kevin never gave him a chance, preferring instead to give opportunities to players he bought in at over-the-top fees (Macken, Bischoff, Negouai, Sommeil - what's he doing at Sheff U? Answer: nothing) a chance in the Premiership who were laughably inept at the top level. Those four cost City around GBP10m, money the club shall never see again, and one reason we are so skint now. I've nothing against home-grown players judged to be not of the required standard (BWP, Flood, Croft), being sold off, but if young home grown-talent is not given the chance at the club (whoever it is) whose ranks they've come through, such is the insatiable demand for instant results, no other Premiership club will take a chance on them.

Bertie, Glenn Whelan is on the transfer list at Wednesday and has been in and out of the side this season. He's done ok there but been nowt special according to my Wednesdayite mates. Hardly a mistake by Keegan on that evidence, is it?

Well Whelan scored for Wednesday on Saturday in a 4-1 away win! Kevin Keegan is ancient history now, but let's not re-write it, shall we? Keegan's mistakes in the transfer-market far outweighed his smart moves - McManaman, Vuoso, Fowler, Negouai, Sommeil, Sibierski, Ellegaard, Bischoff, Macken - off the top of my head, that's nine duds who cost us almost GBP25m. Add then you can add the likes of Sinclair and Reyna, neither of whom have given us massive value for money at a combined GBP5m. I rest my case. And you should yours!

Bertie - by your logic, then we should give everybody a chance. In order to get all of our reserves a first team game before they get moved on I reckon that we'd have to average one debutant everyhome game. I think Kevin Keegan had to make some executive decisions somewhere and deny the opportunity to the likes of Whelan who never looked a world beater in the reserves, and on evidence, not in training either. The point that money was wasted elsewhere is almost a seperate point entirely. It assumes that a) we should never show any ambition in the transfer market, b) we could live entirely on our academy and c) that transfers always come off. You can't argue that Keegan has been fully vindicated that the players he let go were'nt good enough. At the time we bought Macken he was the best forward in the league and Vuoso was scoring for fun for Independiente in his teens. It didn't happen for them, but c'est la vie, but they always had a better chance of making it in the Premiership than someone who didn't even look half-decent turning out for the stiffs in the Pontin's League.

Gareth - you've ended up agreeing with me! "I think Kevin Keegan had to make some executive decisions somewhere." He did, but they were almost always wrong ones. "The point that money was wasted elsewhere is almost a separate point entirely." Er, it isn't; clubs spend money on players who have not been provided for them by the club's own resources (the academy, in other words). So what that Macken was top scoring in his league (and wasn't that Shaun Goater in any case)? Preston bit our hands off at GBP5m, and who could blame them? Macken was bought largely on the strength of one fluke goal and was never going to make it at the top level. What a pity it cost us five million to find that out. Ultimately, Vuoso and Macken were both bought ostensibly to replace Shaun Goater, whom the manager judged, incorrectly, to be not good enough for the top level. I think that proves my point perfectly - a Kevin Keegan executive decision entirely wrong in every respect possible. And that is defintely all I have to say on the matter!

No, but YOUR point was that they got a go ahead of academy prospects. A replacement for Goater had to come from somewhere, he was getting on a bit by the time he left, and I don't blame Keegan for thinking that Macken and Vuoso were a better prospect than whoever we had in the reserves at the time. It didn't work out for them, but Liam Miller wasn't the next Roy Keane - it doesn't keep their fans awake at night because they can afford replacements when things don't come off. To say that he shouldn't have gambled in the transfer market because reserves weren't given a chance is slightly odd. At the time you could have argued that Benarbia and Berkovic didn't need to be brought in because Chris Shuker was doing OK in the reserves. Like I said, Vuoso's Argentinian record were good enough to indicate that he would have been a decent addition to the squad. He came to England and couldn't settle - I don't see how much we can blame Keegan for that. Your initial gripe here was that Keegan released players without giving them a chance: but all of these players have amounted to little - he was right not to bother. And his transfer activity did include Berkovic, Benarbia, Distin, Anelka, James, Schmeichel, Bosvelt, Foe... And even the ones that were bemoaned by many gave much better service than people like to think (Sibs, Sun, Reyna)

I'm not going I went to the Chesterfield game and never been so embarest in my life