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Pressure grows for English parliament

THE celebration of the 300-year union between England and Scotland has fuelled debate over whether there should be a separate assembly south of the border.

The anniversary of the creation of Great Britain has seen growing speculation that the Scottish electorate may vote for independence in forthcoming elections and by new calls for a separate English parliament.

Supporters of constitutional change say there is growing concern about the impact of devolution in the London parliament, particularly the influence that MPs elected in Scotland have on England-only matters. A poll suggested that 61 per cent of voters in England wanted their own parliament.

The figures were pounced on by pressure group The Campaign for an English Parliament . Mike Knowles, a spokesman for the group, which was launched after Scottish and Welsh devolution in 1998 and has more than 5,000 members, said a new body operating in tandem with Westminster would allow decisions to be made more democratically.

He said: "We want England to have the same political recognition as other parts of the UK.

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"We believe that a different assembly would not replace Westminster but instead take charge of the issues currently dealt with by the Scottish parliament such as education and health and give the people of England the opportunities that the people of Scotland and Wales enjoy."

Plans to introduce regional assemblies were dropped following a disappointing public referendum in the North East of England.

Blackley MP Graham Stringer said: "My view is that there is increasing English resentment about the constitutional settlement.

"I think that the situation can be solved by increasing the power of English local authorities, giving them more say on trams, houses and schools."

Another solution would be banning Scottish MPs from voting on issues which affect only England. But constitutional expert Professor Murray Pittock, from the Scottish Studies department at Manchester University, said this would create a two-tier system of MPs and drive a wedge into the union, leading to increased calls for Scottish independence if Scots MPs were stripped of powers.

DO you think England should have a separate parliament? Have your say.

PLUS: Read Scottish M.E.N. reporter Yakub Qureshi's views on the pros and cons of an English parliament...

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I don't think England needs a parliament they already have one at Westminster,they just need us in Scotland to stop sending MPs there.they have no real role as all the important things are now managed in Edinburgh and they only seem to be there to go through the lobbies for Tony Blair,apart from the SNP of course who are at least honest enough not to vote on English issues.
Scotland and England would be better going our own ways and stop trying to operate a system that should have been binned years ago.
The union came about as Adefence mechanisim for England against Scotland's ancient ally France and as a way for Scots merchants to access English colonies.

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The creation of an English parliament might be a very logical move in the present circumstances. Westminster could deal with foreign policy, defence and UK recourses. The Welsh, Scottish, Ulster & English bodies would deal with the rest as they deemed fit. My only problems are: Who would pay for all this? How would the MPs be elected? Could an MP serve in both parliaments, and if so how could they possible look after their own constituents?

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Murray Pittock:Are there any English MPs voting on issues in the Scottish Parliament or Welsh Assembly--No,they would be excluded;is that racist or just unconstitutional? Keep the Union but just have English MPs sitting in Westminster! This won't happen though because,without the Scottish vote,Labour would cease to exist! Do not,under any circumstance,have local councils make big decisions, as they are clueless amateurs. As an ex-Mancunian,I know!

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An English Parliament would not involve extra paid Politians, the Westminster Parliament would have to be reduced to take account of the loss of work that would be done by the three parliaments that would be in existence. One reason why the inhabitants of Westminster do not wish to see it happen.

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Of course England should have its own Parliament. Why not? The United Kingdom comprises three nations plus N. Ireland. It is not made up of regions or there would be two parliaments in Scotland - one for the Gaelic Highlands and another for the Scots-speaking Lowlands.
Both the National Assembly of Wales and the Scottish Parliament are seeking more autonomy. Fair enough. For Wales that requires another referendum. It would be absurd and undemocratic not to offer the people of England a referendum at the same time.

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Of course England must have a Parliament. It really is outrageous that Scottish MPs can vote on what the English can do, in areas from which English MPs are totally excluded when it comes to Scotland. What other nation would have put up with this colonialism for a decade?

The excuses for not rectifying this problem put forward by those who support the status quod are threadbare and self-serving. We already have two classes of Westminster MP - the English MPs who have responsibility for all matters affecting their own constituents and Scots and Welsh MPs who do not, but retain all their previous powers to interefere in English domestic matters.

The argument that allowing the English to govern themselves,in the way that the Scots and the Welsh already do, might threaten the Union, should worry no one. If the Scots and the Welsh can not accept English electoral equality the Union is already dead.

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The devolution chickens are coming home to roost, with three of the four constituent countries of the United Kingdom having a Parliament or Assemblies the Labour Government, aided and abetted by the Tories and the Lib Dems, think that by breaking up England into 9 (Euro-manageable) "regions" and denying that England is a nation, would appease the "uneducated" (Gordon Brown), "sour little Englanders" (David Cameron) residing south of the border. In a country, the United Kingdom, it might be thought that all citizens should be treated equally and quite right too, the truth is that the elderly in Scotland get free care whereas in England they have to sell their homes and pay for it. In Wales NHS prescriptions will, later this year, be universally free to Welsh nationals only, English patients living yards from the border will have to pay over ¿¿6 per item. Is this the politicians view of equality, if it is the sooner they get voted out the better. The English should be invited to join in at the party not just pay for it all, an English Parliament is the only fair answer.

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Let it be remembered that the Parliament that sits at Westminster is the UK Parliament and not an English Parliament, although the majority of MPs elected to Westminster are from English constituencies there has never has far as I can remember been a free vote, thus allowing each member to vote according to conscious and equally to represent thier constituents in England, inevitably they vote on party lines aided by the 3 whip system, so in effect these MPs do not vote for English issues in isolation and thus any comments regarding that English constituent MPs are allowed to out vote influence from the Scots and Welsh MPs given thier numbers is false.

Giving powers back to local authorities goes no where near to the powers invested in the Scottish Parliament, this is just another try at foisting Regionalisation on England in preference to the alternative of an English Parliament with the same powers as the Scots Parliament.

English votes on English laws will still not make up for the democratic deficit that the electors of England have, as devolution stands if you are part of the electorate in Scotland or Wales you have the opportunity for two votes one for the Parliament/Assembly of your Nation and one for the UK Govt, yet here in England I have the opportunity only to vote for the UK Govt, only the birth of a re-born English Parliament can address the democratic deficit, far from the cry of 'it will creat two classes of MP', it is the electorate of the UK that have two classes of voters, having one vote for the UK Govt makes the English electorate 2nd class.

This situation was bought about by NuLabour in thier lop side thinking that by giving the Scots and Welsh devolution it would somehow be a sop to the Nationlists and stop the call for independance, all this while only offering England regionalisation, a regionalisation mind you that would have effectivley wiped England off the map, now at long last MPs are beginning to see the error of thier ways but towards England you note but to the Union they started to break-up, there is hope, that hope being that England will be given her own Parliament, to give voice to the people of England, but a note of caution here there is no reason the UK cannot remain whilst using a federal model where all nations of the UK have thier own Parliament whilst primary legislation remains with a UK Govt, this is an answer our politicians will have to negoitate with each Nation in mind so as to give fairness to all, whilst they prevaracate the feeling of unfairness in England rises by the day, so do not worry about the Scots breaking up the Union if England does not receive an amicable solution to the democratic deficit it faces it will be England that breaks it up

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Of course we need our own Parliament.
I wear the Justice For England badge every day and will be in London on May 1st for the Justice of England March.
"Justice for England" demands Equal rights for our pensioners, students, babies, our sick and our dying.
Thanks, Mike, for working so hard on the behalf of everyone in England, through the Campaign for an English Parliament. It is down to you that I decided to fight for the lives of our sick and elderly, who are being discriminated against by a Chancellor elected in Scotland.
No more of it. I have never been politically active, but the deliberate witholding of some 11 cancer drugs for the English was just too much for me. Someone has to speak out for those who have been condemned to die and those who will be in the future.
An English life should be worth the same as a Scottish life. Gordon Brown must be forced to resign for this!!

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As an Ex Pom, I spent 1 year in Scotland a few years ago.

I believe it would be great to have a parliment in Scotland.
Does that mean the local council will be dispenced with ?

Australia is a very over governed country, and for all of that, we don't seem to have any real say in what is happening. For examble Iraq.

We are still using old time methods to run our countrys.

Let us get younger pollititions, who will be on Earth in the future. As a male, I want more women representing us.
Definately not a Maggi Thatcher type.

Please send us some rain.

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Can anyone tell me what party an English Socialist is supposed to vote for?

This Government has its head in the sand with regard to the West Lothain question and the constitutional injustice suffered in England. Regional Assemblies have been overwhelmingly rejected (78%) in the one region where the people were consulted and had the best chance of succeeding, the North East.

This situation would be exacerbated if Gordon Brown was to succeed Blair. I for one (amongst many) could not vote for a party that proposes a leader whose constituents would not be affected by the Government's two most crucial policies, Health and Education.

Until we get a Parliament of our own, I for one will not be voting Labour if Brown takes over!

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Dave in Spain. You use the term unconstitutional, we dont have a constitution in the UK because we are subjects of a Monarchy. Thus, we are not citizens in the true meaning of the sense.

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I'm concerned that your writer has failed to explain some of the issues here - such as the Barnett Formula, the fact that the UK Government tweaked the maritime boundary to give Scotland most of England's share of the North Sea oil and that cancer drugs available on the NHS elsewhere in the UK are not available in England. There is also the issue of costly, unelected (and therefore undemocratic) regional assemblies.
Please could future articles be a little less biased in favour of the Scots and the current system and also a little less biased against a parliament for England?

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Equality is a beautiful thing; not that all nations have to be of equal size or wish to strut their stuff on theWorld Stage by embarking on illegal wars; and the relationships between peoples will always be more equitable where neither side feels second class or undervalued.

England and Scotland as equal and comradely nations within the EU and the United Nations is a more natural and mature arrangement for the Twenty-first century. Good luck to England as a modern independent nation.

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Blackley MP Graham Stringer said: "My view is that there is increasing English resentment about the constitutional settlement.
"I think that the situation can be solved by increasing the power of English local authorities, giving them more say on trams, houses and schools."

Thanks mate . So Scotland gets a full blown parliament and the English are going to be fobbed off with ( perhaps ) a little say on trams . Just about typical of the biased attitude that the British political establishment have towards the English .

And don't try and tell me that the parliament at Westminster is the English Parliament . It isn't . Its the British parliament and England needs her own - just for England .

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I think the question should be, "Why shouldn't England have it's own parliament". If it's good enough for all other countries in the UK why not England anything else must be discriminatory. The English must have the same rights to protect their culture and way of life. If this does not happen I believe the break up of the UK is inevitable.

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Parliament for England and Scotland. Stop the Scottish subsidy and put OUR money into OUR country. We gain nothing from the union, yet lose billions.

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I cannot be the only one looking forward to the day when English affairs are discussed in the English media by English people without the irrelvant opinions of Scotch commentators automatically being sought (Professor Murray Pittock and 'Scottish M.E.N. reporter' Yakub Qureshi for example). The governance of England is not their concern.

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It is important for the people of England to articulate whether or not they feel England should be broken into Euro/City Regions as proposed by Labour. Labour have 23% of the popular vote in England and claim they have a mandate to take England apart - the people of England don't believe they do and will challenge it. 68% of people questioned in Sunday Telegraph ICM backed calls for an English Parliament - 3 times the level voting for Labour. Labour and Lib Dems refuse to let the people of England speak - we have to ask why? Is it because all three parties are funded by Scottish interests and led by Scots? I think that is closer to the truth than any concern about the Union - what they are all concerned about is losing their careers and their having their egos cut down to size. England needs democracy - England needs her own Parliament - let's all keep fighting for justice!

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Good give em thier own parliament, its aboot time they kept themsleves to themselves. YOU CAN TAKE OUR NORHT SEA OIL, YOU CAN TAKE OUR WHISKY, BUT YOU'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEEDOMMMMM!

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only an English parliament could put right the current discrimination now faced by English people,the university top up fees scandal/English people denied life saving cancer drugs unless one moves to scotland where they are available/English elderly having to sell homes to pay for care/St georges day being denied as a bank holiday in England.The list is endless.wake up English people.roll on an English parliament.

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England must have its own parliament,if only to counter the daily injustices encountered by English people in England.How can life saving cancer drugs be denied to English people but be allowed in scotland,why do English students pay scandalous top up fees,why do English elderly people have to sell homes to pay for care when the scots do not?roll on an English parliament.

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