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Blears blamed for 'demise of British Bobby'

A LEADING Greater Manchester policeman has mounted an astonishing attack on Labour Party chairwoman Hazel Blears, saying she and the government are on the verge of destroying the British Bobby.

Paul Kelly, chairman of the Greater Manchester Police Federation, which represents the interests of lower ranking officers, mounted the attack in a piece about police community support officers in the federation magazine Manchat.

He also blasts the Salford MP and former police minister, branding her attitude to her responsibilities to the people of Greater Manchester "indefensible".

Controversy about the role of police community support officers has raged nationally since they were introduced by the government.

Feeling is particularly high locally, as in Greater Manchester police have been given strictly ring-fenced money from the government to pay for them -while at the same time having to cut more than 200 regular police officer posts because of a budget shortfall.

Mr Kelly said: "I never thought I would see it in my service, but this government is now well on its way to destroying probably one of the most positive and respected national icons - the British Bobby. The office of police constable is the envy of the world. We are the oldest, and, indeed, the finest, law enforcement body.

'Hell-bent'

"However, this government is hell-bent on replacing the bobby on the beat with the civilian in the community.

"A major advocate for the change is Hazel Blears, who has now left the Home Office and moved on, leaving behind an insidious cancer that is already eating away at police numbers in Manchester."

Mr Kelly added: "She still claims that the PCSO project is feasible and effective, even when faced with their own independent evaluation on the effectiveness of PCSOs that stated they had no measurable effect on levels of crime or instances of anti-social behaviour.

"All of the above is in no way a criticism of the fine women and men who chose to be PCSOs."

Ms Blears, speaking as chair of the Labour Party, said: "Community support officers have been a great success. They are popular, they put a uniformed presence on the streets, and they're here to stay."

IS Hazel Blears 'hell-bent' on replacing the British Bobby? Have your say.

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i think the pcsos do a wonderfull job but the governmentshould give us more bobbies not wanna be cops, its just a cheaper option.

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Hazel Blears has moved on leaving regular Police Officers at an all time low. Cuts in staff, ever mounting clercal duties, PC madness, real increases in crime have left the morale of rank and file Officers in GMP at an all time low. The managers in GMP appear to spend more time bowing to their politiacl masters than fighting crime.

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Politics used to be about looking after the poeple.Hazel Blears looks after Hazel Blears.

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This looks like a classic case of the closed shop! The complaints about Police Community Support Officers by the leader of GM Police Federation are unacceptable trying to portray images of the 'British bobby' from the past that are questionable in any case.

His complaint about Hazel Blears is unfounded and in fact semi-libellous. Just because people want to change a system does not require this kind of inflammatory language.

The news systems now being brought in with neighbourhood policing and work with other agencies in geographical areas brings policing back to where it should be. Back from the 'army of occupation' system that developed with cars being the only method of patrolling the streets. PCSOs, police, neighbourhood wardens, parking wardens, etc all have a critical role in making neighbourhoods safe and the police to be seen as part of communities, not some alien force.

Come off it, the developing agenda promises to be a massive improvement. Stop trying to defend the indefensible!

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It's a vision of hell. Politically motivated civilian snitches replacing professional bobbies. The Labour Party truely casts an insdious shadow.

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I think PCSO??<sup>TM</sup>s do a wonderful job and just lack the powers to deal with what they are here for i.e. low level crime and anti social behaviour.

Give them the relevant powers and you will see the benefits!

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The sad fact is that the P.C.S.O.s are a poor replacement for the numbers of officers that are leavng in droves, they have too few powers and are under equipped to carry out the job that they are given. This is not a dig at the people that do this job as I wouldn't do it but aimed at the goverment who haven't thought this out properly. It's time to get more Bobbies with the right powers employed, it's that simple!!!

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PCSO's are merely "plastic policemen" who issue fixed penalty notices for offences and have no real powers of arrest-they're just policing on the cheap and nasty and a way to keep proper bobbies from the street where they should be;doing their job!!!

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What really is the point of these hobby bobbys ? They have no powers of arrest are very unlikely to offer much in terms of intelligence.
I'm not a fan of Blears, something about her doesnt gel in my head, she's more interested in Hazel than the people she represents..though I suppose they all are ?

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Well done that man. It's time the police stood up for themselves, they will have the backing of the rest of the country.
Not only is Labour destroying the police, it's destroying the whole of the UK, especially England, without our permission or consultation, that's a dictatorship in
anyones language.
It is nothing short of treachery.
Wake up Britain before it's too late. Blair has sold you out, for his place at the head of Europe.
He wants a legacy but it will never be the one he craves, it will be as the destroyer of the UK. Are you going to let him complete his deadly task?

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Kelly's attack is disgraceful.
Why do we have to accept that having uniformed police officers charging about the streets in Subarus and Astras is the only way to police a city? Because that's what it had descended to.
Hazel Blears, whilst in charge of policing, at least tried to implement a break from that vehicle-bound policing model that was a failure. Coppers don't LIKE doing the beat and much prefer chasing around in cars. The PCSO puts a presence on the street, and a presence that people actually want.
Naturally reactionaries within the police will attak anything they see as interference with their paramilitary view of policing, reinforcing the them-and-us model which fails to protect anybody.

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Mr Kelly has it the nail right on the head. It would be far better to have 10 real police officers, than 20 PCSO's. The Labour Party have never liked the police, most of them were left wing loonies in their time, and they are now doing their best to reduce the power of Chief Constables, they are trying to force though amalgamations that nobody wants, at a cost of 700 million, you could buy an awfull lot of coppers for that money. In 5 years time when you all call for back-up at a big job, you will get a couple of PCSO's turn up, what a comforting thought!!!!!!.

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If you stand a PCSO infront of a member of public and ask them to tell you what they see, many of them will say "police officer".

The government is attempting to pull the wool over the publics eyes by use of a flourescent jacket. The police bought the idea as they saw these individuals taking the low level crime away from their core responsibilty freeing them up to deal with more serious crime. This has not been the reality. PCSO's can not deal with the multitude of events that happen and generally require a uniformed constable to make an appearance. It's a waste of money especially at a time when regular officers are being laid off. The next half brained idea will probably be promoting road sweepers to the office of constable. After all they have the yellow jacket already?!

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I am a PCSO.
PC Kelly is right....To an extent. The training does not properly represent the issues we face on the street. No powers of arrest? There are numerous offences that 'any person' may arrest for. The Federation are in a superb place to have PCSOs powers extended or ammended to assist PCs where need be. There seems to be many people with problems, but not willing to offer effective ideas on how to improve the role of PCSO.
Politically motivated snitches?? No, we come to work and do our job. No matter what government presides at the time.
As for PCSOs arriving at a call for back up...Would you rather we watched a colleague get hurt? I certainly would assist my colleague, and I do not know of a PCSO who would do anything else but help.
I have worked in areas who have not had a police presence in years, and the locals are glad to have us around. You cannot police from a car (not negating the need for response teams)and the public know that. Perhaps anyone who doubts the effectiveness of PCSOs should spend a couple of shifts with one or two. Seeing what they have to do and put up with. Not just that but to appreciate the welcome they get from locals who are pleased to have police of any kind in the area.
If you think you can better the role, please do so. PCs have been around for over 100 years. We (PCSOs)have been around for about 4 years. So the role wont have had time to mature. Federation members blasting off like this, does make our job harder. We are trying to gain the trust and respect of the communities we serve. Im just glad that many people ask us about our role and powers and find out first hand what we do. Rather than being told that we are useless by an organisation that exists for its members and to protect them whatever the cost. PCSOs are not here to take the job of a PC. Nor are we here to create a false sense of security. We do a lot of the 'just jobs' that PCs dont have the time to do, or the things that dont neccesarily require someone to be arrested. We do the house to house enquiries, community meetings, moving on groups of youths from places that have complained, collecting CCTV tapes and the dealing with neighbour disputes, and generally freeing up the time PCs have to go and catch the muggers and rapists and drug dealers (from intelligence reports gathered by PCSOs in the community).
We deal with quality of life issues and do a good job that isnt supported by outbursts from people whao have probably never spoken to a PCSO.
So, if you can help the role of PCSO progress into a better role, do it. If you dont understand what a PCSO does, ask one. We dont bite.
Mel

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