A GROUP of Greater Manchester councils is refusing to impose "immoral" new asylum legislation under which children could be taken away from parents.
It means they are defying the Home Office.
When families are refused asylum, their benefits are stopped and eviction notices served.
If, as a result of the loss of income, social services feel children cannot be cared for properly, they can be taken into care.
The measures are included in the Asylum and Immigration Act 2004. Previously, failed asylum seekers who were families with children under 18 qualified for support, including council rent, until they left the country voluntarily or were deported.
But now if they don't leave they face these new measures to encourage them to go.
This policy is being tested in pilot areas including Greater Manchester.
Review
But now, in the wake of two local cases, Greater Manchester's 10 councils have joined together and requested a review of the legislation before individual authorities implement it.
It is understood there are concerns about the moralilty of taking children away from their parents and the impact this could have on families.
The councils have written to the Home Office to express concern and demand clarification. They have not yet received a response.
Two families who fled persecution in their homelands - the Bolton-based Sukulas and the Khanali family from Bury - have lost appeals against the Home Office to stay in Britain.
Eviction notice
The Sukula family have been served with an eviction notice and their benefits have been stopped. They are living on voluntarily hand-outs from the local community.
The Khanali ruling, made last night, means their benefits will be stopped on Friday and they will be served notice of eviction.
Although their futures are uncertain, their respective councils are reluctant to consider the children’s situation or carry out an eviction until they have heard from the Home Office.
In the meantime, both families are being allowed to stay in their homes. It is understood that council chiefs feel their officers are facing “conflicting demands”.
The British Association of Social Workers and the Association of Directors of Social Services have also written to the Home Office to seek clarification because they are also concerned.
Coun Basil Curley, of Manchester, ’s executive member for health and social care, said the councils had concerns about the impact of the pilot scheme on children. He said: “I am aware that the Immigration and Nationality Directorate is to formally evaluate the pilot project in the near future and that this will determine whether or not the legislation is more widely implemented.
“In light of recent experiences in Greater Manchester, the councils want a review of the pilot to be conducted as a matter of urgency.”
Morally bankrupt
John Nicholson, of Bury Law Centre, which represents the Khanali and Sukula families, said the legislation was “morally bankrupt and deeply flawed”. He said both families were seeking judicial reviews and added: “They are traumatised at the thought of their children either being taken from them or forced to return to ill-treatment in their original homeland.”
The legislation came into force in December last year. It was pushed through Parliament by the then Home Secretary David Blunkett.
Refugee Action said 116 families in the pilot areas could be affected.
The Home Office would not comment on claims the legislation was immoral.
A spokesman said: “Section nine is designed to encourage more families to return voluntarily with packages that provide assistance for re-integration.”
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Grant, Sale (24/08/2005 at 09:31)
Mrs V Angry, Manchester (24/08/2005 at 09:54)
Ace Riley, manchester (24/08/2005 at 10:10)
arturo grimaldi, rome (24/08/2005 at 11:06)
It seems in spite of all their economic and medical woes they still know how to make babies.
Anthony, Accrington,Lancashire (24/08/2005 at 11:09)
Di, Bolton (24/08/2005 at 11:31)
Rach, Crumpsall (24/08/2005 at 11:59)
If this is the case then they should be deported as soon as possible - not split up and starved of cash vital to their living. All the majority of people in this country want is a fair asylum system where we help those in genuine need but don't take everyone who just wants to come here as we are too small to support that.
James, Eccles (24/08/2005 at 12:21)
I'd rather give benefits to some poor asylum seeker who has lived through war, famine, oppression, etc. than to some natural Brit who has had the very best in health and education throughout their lives - and yet still can't manage to get off the dole.
You either believe that it is the strong man's job to help the weak, or you don't - and if like Ace Riley you don't believe this, I'd say you have your priorities utterly wrong - and when YOU need help one day, I hope there's someone there with enough heart to give it to you.
Those who would split this family should be ashamed. You'd rather hurt kids than admit your politics can be flawed. Disgusting.
Anthony, Accrington,Lancashire (24/08/2005 at 13:20)
SB, Oldham (24/08/2005 at 13:28)
However, I do think that rather than handing out benefits, the government should look at getting asylum seekers into employment - legally. There are so many jobs out there that can be done by anyone, cleaning to filing jobs. You don't need to be fluent in English to do these jobs, but it keeps you busy. This way they are earning their living, and not relying on state benefits. The whole system is wrong. If they stopped giving benefits to asylum seekers and gave them the option to work or leave, let me tell, we will have far far less asylum seekers in Britain. Spongers/gold diggers won't see it as the land of free money any more.
If I was in these people's situation, the last thing on my mind would be to have any more children. It's easy to bring a child into this world, but how will they get the money to look after this baby, feeding, clothing, welfare etc. Oh now the crunch comes. The state will provide for that child. And that's were the system is wrong. The state shouldn't have to provide, if these people are healthy enough to have a child, then they should be healthy enough to get any sort of jobs.
Don't get me wrong, my deepest sympathy goes out to both of the family, and I feel so sorry for the kids - what future do they have.
The parents should have waited until their decision for leave had been made, before having a child.
I am a second generation british asian, and know what it feels like to be discriminated, hated by racists etc.
I work full time, just about get enough money to feed my family ( a wife and a child). We would love to have another child, but we can't because money is tight. We can't afford to have another child.
And yet people on state benefits (UK permanent residents and assylum seekers) don't think twice to have kids because it means more money coming in for them.
I have seen people on benefits who have 6/7/8 kids with mothers on the way to having another one.
Lets face it, the sooner the government sort out elegibility of state benefits, and makes tougher to get benefits the better. Yes there a few genuine cases, but majority are frauds.
If I was in a poor country and got to know that UK gives out state handouts/benefits if you don't work then UK would be first port of call and probably the last.
Ricky Gee, Whitefield (24/08/2005 at 13:59)
Perhaps you have some spare rooms in your house to accomodate some asylum seekers - or will pay a few thousand more in taxes to support them?
Er , no - thought not....so don't be generous with other peoples taxes then.
The benefits should be stopped - and stopped to for a load of our own "native spongers" too!
Ron Traps, manchester (24/08/2005 at 14:03)
ferdinand, spain (24/08/2005 at 14:16)
derek bowyer, middleton (24/08/2005 at 14:41)
david, portsmouth (24/08/2005 at 15:00)
i am sick and tired of our nation being ripped off and bled dry by these scum
thank you
George, Prestwich (24/08/2005 at 15:10)
Social workers should not be drafted in as asylum police - children should only be taken from their parents when those parents threaten their well-being.
In June Radio 4 exposed some of the injustices inherent in current decisions about asylum, (cf. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/file_on_4/3708232.stm); a humane society cannot fracture families on the basis of such fallible decisions.
Brutality to strangers in our midst brutalises us all. This, not asylum seekers, is the real threat to the best values in our society. We all need to say no to this kind of action from the Home Office and try to make it represent the compassionate society we are capable of being.
F Franklin, Hulme, Manchester (24/08/2005 at 15:12)
Jacqui Burke, oldham (24/08/2005 at 15:20)
Jacqui Burke
Big D, MANCHESTER. (24/08/2005 at 15:27)
They have lost their appeal bye bye.
Colin W, Manchester and Stockholm (24/08/2005 at 15:34)
I worry for this country and think I may stay over here in Sweden.
Wendy, Levenshulme (24/08/2005 at 15:38)
Of course local authorities should be refusing to implement this inhumane legislation. Social Services department exist to serve the most vulnerable members of our communities, and that includes children and refugees. I am proud that Greater Manchester authorities have taken up this issue and I only hope this will put paid to this racist legislation.
judith ann read, Chorlton (24/08/2005 at 15:44)
Well done Manchester Authorities for taking the stance they have.
Magda, Oldham (24/08/2005 at 15:53)
Henry, Moston (24/08/2005 at 15:58)
Rob Owen, Manchester (24/08/2005 at 16:11)