Drivers could pay up to '1.34 a mile in road charges considered as a replacement for fuel tax, the Government admitted tonight.
In a series of interviews with The Sunday Times, The Observer and The Independent on Sunday, Transport Secretary Alistair Darling said change was essential if Britain was to avoid "LA-style gridlock".
Under the proposals, all cars and lorries would have to be fitted with a "black box" which would track their journeys via a satellite system.
A feasibility study carried out last year suggested that charges could range from 2p a mile on rural roads to '1.30 a mile for peak-time journeys on the country's busiest roads and motorways.
Although the system could not be introduced for at least a decade, Mr Darling said decisions would have to be made in the current Parliament on whether to proceed with the scheme.
Pilot
He said he intended to present a bill before the next General Election to establish a pilot project in a large urban area, such as Greater Manchester or the West Midlands within the next five to six years.
"If we don't do anything it's pretty clear to me, when you look at all the trends, we would face complete gridlock," he told The Sunday Times.
"More and more cars will grind to a halt and the generations to come will curse those people of my generation who didn't do anything about it."
Mr Darling - who will set out his thinking in a speech on Thursday to Social Market Foundation - acknowledged that he would need to build a consensus over the course of the next Parliament if the scheme was to win public acceptance.
"We've got to take the British people with us," he said.
He emphasised the the new charges would replace fuel tax - dramatically cutting the price of petrol - and also, possibly, road tax.
"You are certainly not talking about a charge on top of another charge. You can't have both. this would be a completely different concept, a completely different way of doing things," he said.
Although road-pricing schemes operate on some motorways in America and the Australia, Mr Darling said that "nothing on this scale has ever been attempted".
However, with satellite navigation kits now "fitted almost as standard" on top-of-the-range cars, the technology was becoming increasingly widely available.
"In another 10 years I expect every car will be fitted with this equipment. So it makes sense to see whether or not you can't use that to good advantage and give drivers a better deal," he said.
Charging
Environmental group Friends of the Earth today urged Mr Darling to introduce road charging to help cut down pollution.
Their transport spokesman Tony Bosworth said: 'Money raised through any sort of road pricing must be invested in the transport system to improve the alternatives to car use, as cuts in fuel and road tax could lead to more traffic on our roads and more climate change emissions.
'The reality is that road pricing wont be introduced for years - we need action now.'
Revenue
Tony Grayling, assistant director of the Institute for Public Policy Research and a former transport adviser to the government, said: 'The question is what do you do with the revenue you raise from road user charging.
'Some of it will be needed to operate the scheme itself, perhaps 20%, but what do you do with the rest of it?
'Do you use it to reduce motoring taxes, such as vehicle excise duty or fuel duty - which I think the government is mooting - or do you ring fence it for spending on improving the transport system?
Terence Bendixson, secretary of the Independent Transport Commission (ITC) at the University of Southampton, said: 'There could be a poll tax revolt if Alistair Darling fails to deal with these issues in ways that drivers see as fair and reasonable. The ITC has work in hand that is aimed at throwing light on such problems.'
Bert Morris, director of the AA Motoring Trust, said: 'It's feasible, the question is, is it politically acceptable?
'Will people affected think they are better off or worse off? Road pricing on top of existing taxes is not acceptable. There has to be a corresponding reduction in taxes or duties or lower costs on the transport system."
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Darryl Hall, Watford (05/06/2005 at 17:43)
The idea overall is great as they are proposing a per mile costing system, whilst also eliminating the need of road tax and high taxes on our fuel. The only people who will excersise doubt, wil be frequent travellers, but the average joe using their car for a say 30 minute journey each day to work will find it alot better than todays system.
d white, manchester (05/06/2005 at 18:24)
steve thomas, hornchurch essex (05/06/2005 at 18:38)
1 fitting and maintaining black box equipment in all vehicles. how will this work in older vehicles ?
2 can the equipment be tampered with ?
3 when is a road not a road ? ie vehicles taking short cuts on unmade roads may confuse the system.
4 What about journeys of less than a mile. will each mile be accumalative. Will the mile that takes three weeks to complete be charged for
5 Will large vehicles pay more per mile than small vehicles ?
6 What about classic vehicles ?
7 will congestion be caused on minor roads from vehicles trying to avoid high charges ?
I could go on and on, however one thing is certain . If the british public believe that fuel duty and road tax will be cut substantialy , i fear that they will be very much mistaken .
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Compo, Wythenshawe (05/06/2005 at 18:55)
Graham, Manchester (05/06/2005 at 19:51)
Dave, Chorlton (05/06/2005 at 20:30)
Martin, Swinton, Manchester (05/06/2005 at 22:13)
Also, why would I want the Government knowing where I am at any given time, based on a tracking device in my car???
No thanks!!!
Tom, Sale (06/06/2005 at 07:59)
Ian, London (06/06/2005 at 10:05)
The civil liberties arguments are already being canvassed and there is no doubt that New Labour has encroached on civil liberties more than the Conservatives ever would have done, dreadful though they are. The absolutely critical point that is not being addressed is that the GPS based technology will enable minute by minute monitoring of speed. Given this government's enthusiasm for speed enforcement as a business there is no doubt that they will use this opportunity for further tax raising. This needs to be at the forefront of public awareness. So far it is not. And Tom.... if the public had been told - and believed - that, if Labour was re-elected few of them would have a licence by the end of Labour's term, Labour still would have got in. Lemmings?
Ian, London (06/06/2005 at 10:08)
Ricky Gee, Whitefield (06/06/2005 at 11:09)
Ricky Gee, Whitefield (06/06/2005 at 11:14)
des, manchester (06/06/2005 at 12:22)
also before they start spending millions to get this going lets try to get more police on the streets and raods to stop gangs and boy racers making lives a misery for the general public!!
by the way Mr Blair start packing your bags from no10 because the public have had a belly full of you and your government. I was once a big labour voter, but with the above and the mass immigration problen and poor hospital funding its time for a change!!
joey, Ashton under Lyne (06/06/2005 at 12:22)
Dan F, city centre (06/06/2005 at 12:31)
Ian, London (06/06/2005 at 12:52)
Ian, London (06/06/2005 at 12:55)
L, Manchester (06/06/2005 at 13:19)
Fred Oldham, Stalybridge (06/06/2005 at 13:31)
Also this does nothing for the environment nor the conservation of energy as the affluent society will buy bigger and thirstier gas gusselers.
John W. Burley - Retired lecturer., Anon (06/06/2005 at 13:44)
Why didn't this shocking Government say all of this in the run-up to the
Election?
For years successive Governments have underfunded Road Building and have
taken billions of B#'s from the motorist. Ever since New Labour came in the
building of NEW roads has been minimal and they have taken note of all the
Anti-Car Activists, of which there seems to be many, some of them envious,
maybe because they do not have a car, some almost insane with their hatred
of what really should be a modern convenience. In some parts of the country
it is essential to have access to a vehicle whilst it can also be said that
the modern car is a Godsend to many disabled people who would otherwise be
very restricted indeed.
The modern car is now very economical and doesn't pollute as much as buses,
trains, coaches, fire engines, ambulances, most taxis, some police cars,
almost all heavy transport andpossibly the worst of all, aircraft. Why don't
these almost insane anti-car activists - get stuch into that lot?
This Road Charging - really is not on, because it is the motorist that has
funded these roads - why should it be that we are asked to pay even more to
use the roads we built.
The whole scheme and idea of Road Charging - shows that the Government is
GUILTY and knows that it has not spent much of the revenue collected on the
NEW ROADS which should have been built...if the NEW ROADS had been built -
there wouldn't be any need, now, to even consider Road Charging - or
Congestion Charging. That is the case against Road Charging in any
form...and, it is predicted, if any such scheme is brought in by this
Government - there will be civil unrest on a scale that this country has not
seen before.
But, of course, this Government has, again by stealth, brought in all kinds
of draconian laws, aimed at "terrorism" which the Police will be asked to
enforce - not against terrorists, but against ordinary, normally
law-abiding, road users.
Shame on you Blair and company - will Brown change all of this anti-car
attitude - I doubt it!
Power to your elbow - in being on the side of common sense.
P.S. If I were a younger man - I would not stay in this country much longer.
W. Barker, Audenshaw (06/06/2005 at 13:46)
Lawrence Monk, Audenshaw, Manchester (06/06/2005 at 14:26)
Many roads and times of day will be far cheaper. Its no wonder that the public reaction is so hostile when the truth that the scheme should be revenue neutral to central government is not being reported.
Fuel and road tax will both reduce to compensate, so the only people that will pay more will be those that drive above average mileages at peak times - as it should be. Many will see their motoring costs REDUCE. If the story could be reported like this, the yes vote would be way out in front.
Move to Greenland, manc (06/06/2005 at 15:50)
Alex, Withington (06/06/2005 at 16:31)
As has just been pointed out, B#1.34 will be the maximum, used for roads like the M25 for rich commuters wanting to live in the home counties and work in London.
The starting rate will be 2p/mile, fuel duty will be reduced by up to 60% and road tax abolished altogether. People who use their cars in a normal fashion will be fine, as it intends to target people doing excessive, unnecessary milages.
Lastly, the intention is for it to be used not for AT LEAST 10 years time, and considering how far mobile phone technology has come in the last 10 years, sat nav will be fully capable of fulfilling the task.
The only concern I have is how it fails to discriminate between eco friendly cars and the chelsea tractors of this world
mhb, stretford (06/06/2005 at 16:37)
this shows blair b& co's complete disregard for complete disregard for the elected parliament of this once great country.
as to the ideas - i think in future alistair should go and lie down in a darkened room before uttering any more rambling incomprehensible rubbish as this idea.