Tony Lloyd took his green-and-gold scarf into a Parliamentary debate as he called for major reforms in the way football clubs - including Manchester United - are owned.
The Manchester Central MP, and lifelong Reds fan, said a lack of regulation was damaging football just as it had damaged the banks.
He called for the government to impose limits on the debt clubs could rack up, give a bigger say to fans, and put stricter controls on who could and could not own teams.
The move came with United fans' 'green and gold' campaign against the Glazer family's ownership of the club gathering pace. The protest, which uses the colours of the Newton Heath team which which United sprang, came about after a bond issue was drawn up to manage a £716m debt.
And Premier League strugglers Portsmouth were yesterday granted a seven-day stay of execution over tax debts which it was claimed in the High Court amount to £11.5m.
Mr Lloyd, who secured and led the debate, told the M.E.N: "I am concerned as a United fan.
“We saw a big money takeover with a lot of debt involved.
"My concern is about money generated by the football club either going to either the creditors or owners and not back into the club.
"But the same concerns apply to Liverpool, or Portsmouth, or West Ham, and other clubs - not just in the Premier League.
"We have seen the deregulated banks making huge mistakes and we have all paid the price.
Regulation
"We accepted regulation there - and we have to do the same with football."
Mr Lloyd – the chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party – said he wanted to see an American-style football regulator.
In the US, an independent body imposes strict limits on appropriate maximum debt levels for sporting franchises based on factors like size and turnover.
The MP also appeared to refer to the John Terry affair when he spoke about football captains of the past, like Billy Wright, providing 'role models' for youngsters.
“Most of us grew up with these people who had values that carried through into life,” he said.
“We should not put that in peril by saying that football is only a commodity. If we do we betray this beautiful game of ours.”
Mr Lloyd has already put down a parliamentary motion claiming the state of the professional game is 'causing concern'.
It notes the 'further concern' that 'the controlling interests in the clubs do not obviously demonstrate long-term commitment to the clubs involved and to the health of football in general'.
It calls for football fans to be given 'a tangible stake in the clubs they have helped build and still support' and calls on the government and football authorities to 'create a binding framework which will regulate club debt and those people who are involved in football'.
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bufte, mcr (11/02/2010 at 08:23)
Rob Lawrence (11/02/2010 at 08:24)
Black Flag (11/02/2010 at 08:53)
It’s the typical "politician says problem caused by politicians not having enough power" nonsense.
Tony, you’re part of the government which told banks they were "too big too fail,2 giving them an implicit guarantee of bailout, that said there was "no more boom and bust," implying that any preparation for a recession was unnecessary, that did everything it could to create an unsustainable housing bubble, with the associated debt, that increased the bailouts that would be given in the event of bank failure, that gave the FSA the objective of "maintaining confidence in the financial system," which is about as sensible as telling a Road Safety Officer that one of his objectives is to convince everybody that the roads are completely safe and risk free.
In short, Tony, you can’t offer a solution to the problem, because you are the problem.
The Blue Solution, Always looking to the future (11/02/2010 at 08:54)
Now its Yeeeernited.......this bloke seems to care all of a sudden??
Where were your 'I care about football, this is a travesty' empty gestures 3 / 4years ago when this started?
Tezza, Tyldesley (11/02/2010 at 09:25)
Does this M.P really have nothing better to do than get involved in this business, I’m sure that his constituents would prefer it if he spent more of his time working for them and less time concentrating on his hobby.
And Mr Lloyd should understand that the difference between football clubs and banks is that WE the tax payer won’t be bailing the football clubs out if they fail.
citycentre, manchester (11/02/2010 at 09:29)
Regulation
"We accepted regulation there - and we have to do the same with football."
What regulation? All that appears to have happened is we have given the banks billions and told them to carry on as before.
steve wilson (11/02/2010 at 09:54)
Chapman (11/02/2010 at 10:06)
The club he chose to support has systematically set out to corner the market in all things financial .
Now that Manchester United have a huge amount of debt he is running the Parliament thinking they will bale his team out.No doubt he expects the general public to pick up the tab for this debt.
He is typical of many of the politicians we have in this country who don't have a clue about business and another reason why most of our key manufacturing industry has gone.
Gaz M (11/02/2010 at 11:09)
Actions speak louder than words. Just like wearing a white wrist band during Live 8 didn't make poverty history, wearing a green and yellow scarf in the stadium isn't going to make the Glazers history. Some protests are so easy to make that that they become fashionable in themselves.
In a way, the success over the past few years is killing United - without it I doubt that many would find it so hard to stay away. People need to put it aside though and make some tough decisions, and put themselves in the Glazers shoes. They're probably planning a green and yellow away kit for next season.
Milnrow Blue (11/02/2010 at 11:10)
CorneredAllTheLuck, Tameside (11/02/2010 at 11:12)
The Higher Openshaw Exile, MANCHESTER (11/02/2010 at 11:20)
Albert Square, Republik of Mancunia (11/02/2010 at 11:32)
From the Metro on 9/2/10
"Poor radio broadcaster Mark Mudie nearly ended up on the wrong side of the law when Portsmouth visited Old Trafford.
He works for Quay radio and his reports are broadcast on Pompey's official website - when they have got one up and running.
Anyway, he has chatting to some fans outside the ground ahead of the South Coast club's 5-0 battering on Saturday (pictured) when he handed on a green and gold scarf to a supporter from the South Coast.
It had been presented to him by the Independent Manchester United Supporters Association - ironically known as I'M USA - as part of their protests against the Glazer family.
All of a sudden he's confronted by a steward who threatens to call the police and have him arrested for breach of the peace - even though rebel United fans are wearing them all over the concourse around the famous stadium.
As Mark feared his protests becoming more and more unsuccessful, the steward suddenly asked: 'What's all this equipment you have got with you?'
To which Mr Mudie replied: 'It's radio equipment and I'm broadcasting live.'
'Oh,' the suddenly ashen-faced steward responded. 'On your way, sir. Enjoy the game!' "
Breach of the peace for wearing a Green & Gold scarf ? lol
Just how desperate are United getting ?
I would have told the steward to go and get the Police - one would hope the Police would then advise that steward what powers he doesn't have.
About 15 years ago, United themselves were selling Green & Gold stuff - in fact, the last time United played Villa in the League Cup Final, United wore Green and Gold.
I suspect there will be more Green & Gold scarves at Wembley THIS time than there were the last!
LUHG
Hurry O'Caine - the Irish Whirlind, Typhoon Tipperary (11/02/2010 at 11:46)
Esso Blue. Carlitos is officially a GOD , Blues Town (11/02/2010 at 12:14)
The name's Bond, Junk Bond 700 (11/02/2010 at 12:29)
No Mr. Lloyd. The problems in the premier league have come about because a small group of teams corner huge amounts of champions league cash which maintains a status quo. The others are forced into huge risks just to get a touch of the coat-tails. A couple of new kids are now on the block. Tough eh! Methinks Mr. Lloyd would like the status quo to say as it is. With the cost-cutting and economy measures taking place at the swamp all his freebies could also be in jeopardy.
blueballs (11/02/2010 at 12:32)
andymufc, Manchester (11/02/2010 at 12:39)
Bertie McGrew , Northern Countryside (11/02/2010 at 12:46)
Although I fear that the really rich clubs will continue as before across Europe and the UEFA desired Super League will come into effect and the rest will try and continue along the Sunday Pub Team line.
And even thou United have their cash issues, their turnover will generate sufficient profit to stabalise their financial situation, and the likes of Chelsea Arsenal & Liverpool with probably Spurs Aston Villa and God's Own Blues forming the English section of the Super League - gonna cost for the away fixtures mind!
Unless FIFA have a re-think and re-set financial limits to be brought in over the next few seasons and a shed load of the TV revenue goes a lot further down the leagues, I cant see any alternative to the Super League.
But what it's got to do with some muppet MP who's party has almost bankrupted this country I dont know - he and his parliamentary colleagues on all sides of the House need to sort out our domestic financial crisis before they bother with the likes of the Glazers.
stalyvegasblue (11/02/2010 at 12:51)
Black Flag (11/02/2010 at 13:16)
You've got one group, with the a get up and go attitude, who saw something they didn't like and sought to solve the problem by setting up FC United, thereby putting themselves in control of the club they support.
Then you've got a group typified by people like this, who, on seeing something they don't like, act like a petulent baby and demand that other people be forced to behave in a way that pleases them.
I've got all the time in the world for the former and none at all for the latter.
Lambo (11/02/2010 at 13:25)
SMILEY :), Manchester (11/02/2010 at 13:44)
SMILEY :), Manchester (11/02/2010 at 13:45)
citycentre, manchester (11/02/2010 at 14:06)
On the face of it UEFA seem to be the only people likely to have eny effect on the state of clubs finances, as they are talking about imposing a debt limit on clubs entering the Champions League; whether they have any interest in English clubs, or just want to improve the chances of French and German ones is unknown.
As to TV money being spread around more, this seems unlikely; I would suspect the big cash increase the Glazers and some other owners anticipate would be the scrapping of collective sale of TV rights, allowing each club to do strike their own deal with TV and internet companies. Happy times Man U, Liverpool, goodbye Wigan, Burnley.