A SERIES of crime and detection league tables comparing Greater Manchester with five similar police force areas paints a bleak picture of law and order across the region.
Greater Manchester Police has come under fire from members of the region’s police authority after the area ranked either bottom or next to bottom in four national tables produced from the results of the annual British Crime Survey.
The tables showed that the area suffered from a higher rate of so-called ‘acquisitive crime’ – which includes robbery, burglary and car crime – than the five other English forces judged to be most similar.
It also came bottom in the proportion of these crimes which are detected.
It came next to bottom in a table of ‘most serious’ violent crime and also in the detection rate for these crimes. The tables, which compare GMP to forces in Merseyside, Northumbria, South Yorkshire, West Midlands and West Yorkshire, were presented to members of Greater Manchester Police Authority yesterday.
The four tables also showed that the ‘North Manchester’ police division, which covers the city centre and the north of the city, fared worst in a group of the 15 most challenging police divisions across the country in the same ‘acquisitive’ crime and violent crime categories.
Force bosses insist Greater Manchester has more crime than other areas of the country because it has some of the most deprived areas.
It is understood that the figures were originally due to be considered in a part of the meeting from which the press and public were barred. But officials, on behalf of the chair of the police authority, Coun Paul Murphy, moved them to the public section of the meeting.
Chief Constable Peter Fahy also revealed at the meeting that GMP still had the highest burglary rate of anywhere in the country, despite huge operations recently to crack down on house-breakers. He said the burglary rate in Greater Manchester was ‘something we need to understand’.
Authority chairman Coun Murphy described the rate of burglary as ‘staggering’, adding: “There’s huge concern both here and at the Home Office. It’s something we have to put right.”
Speaking about the league tables, independent police authority member Ian Hargreaves, said: “It’s depressing chair isn’t it? I hear about a catalogue of initiatives but when can we expect to see significant improvement? That’s what I want as a member of the authority and I’m not getting any sense of that at all.”
Mr Fahy pointed to a series of operations, more arrests, a stronger focus on neighbourhood policing, greater public confidence in the police and also improved handling of emergency calls.
He said: “There’s a huge amount of work going on. There are some good arrests and there were significant criminals convicted at Manchester Crown Court just on Friday.”
He added that at the same time the force had embarked on an ambitious programme of modernisation to reduce bureaucracy and speed up police work.
Mr Fahy said: “There’s nobody more critical of the force than I am. I have made it absolutely clear that the level of crime in Greater Manchester is unacceptable. When you look at burglary it’s absolutely unacceptable.
“We are monitoring performance on a week-by-week and month-by-month basis and at the same time there’s a huge change programme.”
Coun David Lancaster, who represents Salford, said: “I was around when these targets were set and they weren’t exactly stretching targets.”
Mr Fahy said there was ‘robust monitoring’ of the figures with divisions held to account every week.
After the meeting, force bosses pointed to the huge number of students in the city as one reason for the high burglary rate.
They also argued the force was a far more deprived and challenging area to police than the other forces it is regularly compared with.
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David of Ashton, Ashton (22/12/2009 at 08:41)
Stevedore, Quayside (22/12/2009 at 09:07)
What we understand Mr Fahy is that because Greater Manchester has the highest burglary rate of anywhere in the country it is your job as the Chief Constable of GMP to provide effective policies to combat such high crime rates. As things stand Mr Fahy, you and GMP are badly letting down the people of Greater Manchester and I would suggest that if you feel unable to provide the effective leadership that GMP obviously needs that you stand down to allow the appointment of someone who is able to do so.
Dave Sherwood, Irlam (22/12/2009 at 09:07)
Of Denton, Tameside (22/12/2009 at 09:12)
keyjockey, Manchester (22/12/2009 at 09:24)
MPs gravy train, UK (22/12/2009 at 09:38)
We have allowed an increasing proportion of our society to be dependant on drugs and alcohol. Add 100,000 people that haven't worked for 30 years and you can see the problem. It's not rocket science. But it needs decades of investment and 1 on 1 coaching to solve it. It won't happen.
Simishine, Manchester (22/12/2009 at 09:51)
Come on where has good old fashioned Policing gone too
Howellsy (22/12/2009 at 09:54)
irvtheswerv (22/12/2009 at 09:56)
to the point, bury (22/12/2009 at 09:59)
Also get 8.33% weekend enhancement and a 14% shift allowence, 24K
No real value comperd with a full PC who starts on 24K
abbott71, bolton (22/12/2009 at 09:59)
What we want is pro active Police Officers to tackle the criminals....
We all know the operations that GMP thrive on are staged...FACT...
Come on lets get on with the job of policing and work together to get results.
Mark,Radcliffe. (22/12/2009 at 10:06)
theface, City Centre (22/12/2009 at 10:14)
Mark, South Manchester (22/12/2009 at 10:14)
Yet when crime rates fall, GMP want to take all the credit themselves - and start handing out medals to each other.
The problem in Greater Manchester, is that the police authority keep appointing the WRONG Chief Constable. Apathetic leaders who just can't motivate the rank & file!!
JayTilzey, m29 (22/12/2009 at 10:16)
Mark,Radcliffe. (22/12/2009 at 10:35)
Of Denton, Tameside (22/12/2009 at 10:37)
Not always Greater Manchester Residents Jay, lots of people come in to Greater Manchester from outside to commit crime plus the Police is the organisation meant to stop these people regardless of where they are from - that's what we pay them for!!
Hurry O'Caine - the Irish Whirlind, Typhoon Tipperary (22/12/2009 at 10:37)
Agricola, Manchester (22/12/2009 at 10:42)
I have lived at my current address in Middleton for 9 months and NEVER seen one
Jason Taylor (22/12/2009 at 10:49)
The best bit is Collyhurst and Harpurhey police stations close at 8pm. Laughable isn't it - the very areas that have the highest crime rates don't even have a 24 hour service.
John Quambo, salford (22/12/2009 at 10:50)
The problem comes because they barely get a few months in prison if at all. This leaves them free to continue when they get out with no hint of a deterrent from doing it again. The vast majority of burglars are made up of a hardcore few, all of whom have been locked up for it many times before. If they had been imprisoned properly they wouldn't even be in the equation.
So, maybe you should all blame the govermnment for telling the judges to do anything they can to avoid sending people to prison because it costs them too much before pointing the finger at the police.
to the point, bury (22/12/2009 at 11:04)
Dump all the think tanks that work on coffee and biscuits but haven’t been on the streets in years or ever (none police). Get the courts in to gear to deal with the s**t that use the excuse I need drugs etc. if the prisons are full build more, 4 to a cell no TV etc. short sharp shock or boot camp. If we have to have community service orders then use the USA type chain gang all in vivid yellow coats shifting this snow.
You are supposed to come through the system saying ‘I'm not going there again’ when deterrent fails society collapses, end of story.
Government after government say that deterrents do not work, so why do we have a nuclear arsenal, it is a deterrent, so deterrents do work.
Sorry rant over, time for coffee and a biscuit that I have paid for.
Cameron Dean (22/12/2009 at 11:07)
Simishine, Manchester
22/12/2009 at 09:51
Exactly where the problem lies - working parties, Steering Groups, meetings about meetings. All these things do is put off today what wont get done anyway.
You can ask any operational officer their views and they will say they want to be out catching criminals, and making Manchester a safer place - not chasing ridiculous targets and filling in needless forms and questionnaires. After all the officers live here in Manchester as well!!
Less "Acdemic all posh talk and no experience" Police in meetings talking utter politically correct rubbish. More "Practically experienced" Police visible on the streets. Eradication of PCSO's and replace with sworn constables (wouldn't cost any extra - but I'm sure the public would rather have 1 x PC than 3 x PCSO's)
Problem solved?
Stevedore, Quayside (22/12/2009 at 11:09)
Whilst I agree with you and Of Denton, Tameside that we should be blaming the Government for the judiciary handing down ridiculously lenient sentences this is not only happening in Greater Manchester but all over the country as is evident by reading the national press and watching television news programmes. Given that fact and despite that, why then has Greater Manchester got the highest burglary rate in the country and GMP one of the lowest clear up rates?
KevinK (22/12/2009 at 11:24)