Council seizes woman's stereo

November 07, 2009

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ENVIRONMENTAL health officers seized a woman's stereo following persistent complaints about noise nuisance.

Karen Brown, of Grouse Street, Cronkeyshaw, Rochdale, was blasting slow dance music so loudly it was making ornaments in neighbouring homes bounce off furniture.

Rochdale magistrates issued a warrant on 14 October for the removal of noise-making equipment from Mrs Brown's home.

Environmental health officers stripped the house of its sound systems, including 2.5 ft speakers, a stereo, a large bass speaker and Sony ipod docking station. Mrs Brown will have to pay the seizure cost of £384.01 if she wants them back.

She has been warned further breaches could lead to further seizures or even prosecution if new equipment is bought.

Andy Glover, public protection manager at Rochdale council said: "Where we can, we will take action against inconsiderate perpetrators and bring relief to victims."

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Anthony Cutt (07/11/2009 at 10:59)

Big brother is watching you it now has the authoirty to steal property that you've paid for & the charge you if you want it back.

Vote Labour= vote fascist.

Careless Whisper (07/11/2009 at 11:07)

Let's start a give Karen Brown her stereo back campaign: Throw her in jail. Fine- but what right as anyone got to take her personnal property?

Horatio Dogsbody, Flixton (07/11/2009 at 11:47)

"Mrs Brown will have to pay the seizure cost of £384.01 if she wants them back."

Why should she have them back?

It may be 33 yrs but it will never be 37yrs. (07/11/2009 at 12:55)

Careless Whisper and Anthony Cutt I cannot believe your comments if this woman lived next door to you and you had to put up with this nuisance somehow I don’t think you would be to pleased, unless your deaf.

You condone this noisy woman I take it your neighbours are fed up of you and it won’t be long before we are reading of your inconsiderateness to your neighbours, unless you live in a out of the way place, like an island. It’s not a case of fascism it’s not a case of confiscation, her neighbour has the right to a quite life and if she was playing music at what seems an unreasonable level then she got what she deserved.

Persistent noise can bring on stress related illness where in extreme cases psychiatric treatment is needed, your flippant remarks should be treated with the contempt they deserve.

nyb, ex manc (07/11/2009 at 13:04)

Careless Whisper and Anthony Cutt...I hope this miscreant chav moves next door to you after she gets the equipment back. See how your atitude alters then.

The foreigner (07/11/2009 at 13:37)

Anthony Cutt
7/11/2009 at 10:59
Careless Whisper,
7/11/2009 at 11:07

Difficult to believe that you two are adults, educated and have an intellect. Maybe I'm wrong on all counts.

You annoy the neighbours on a continual and continuous basis despite warnings to desist - that shows intent to disregard the comfort, peace and rights of others.

Of course she is going to lose the equipment used to make the noise. Pity she wasn't jailed for good measure.

Are you two REALLY adults? Do they let you vote?

Theowolfe (07/11/2009 at 13:38)

I wish they would confiscate a lot of the dogs 'round our area.

CommonTator (07/11/2009 at 14:09)

Try living next door to somebody like this, music blaring at all hours of the day. She would have had warnings about the noise before the council took their action.
What right has she got to make her neighbours lives hell?

Is It Me? (07/11/2009 at 17:21)

She was in the wrong but I thought that only the police could remove property,otherwise is is theft by the council stormtroopers! I agree that she should be punished but there is a principle at stake here! What's next,removing crying babies?

I'd wait 10 minutes before you go in there if I were you (07/11/2009 at 17:33)

Joke Of The Day : What did the woman say when her dogs and parrots were confiscated? They've taken my WOOFERS and TWEETERS :-)

PW, Manchester (07/11/2009 at 18:58)

Cutt and Whisper probably belong to the "I don't care about you, I'll do as I like" breed. You're talking about a woman who couldn't care less about her neighbours. Why do you care about her? Whisper says to throw her in jail first. Your fellow liberalists would have a field day, and you'd be joining them no doubt.

She's had all the warnings for heaven's sake. The system has already bent over backwards for the silly woman. It's tough for her I know, but it's meant to be. Good for the Council.

Anthony Cutt (07/11/2009 at 19:54)

I think mine & careless whisper's point was: throw her in jail, give her a big fine. But you can't go around stealing people's stuff.

Mike, Manchester (07/11/2009 at 22:20)

Bailiffs can remove property can't they?

Jetstar, Manchest`oh ! (07/11/2009 at 22:48)

`careless whisper and anthony cutt` - .....readers may I introduce you to Manchesters `do-gooders` duo - good grief get real you two, this women is nothing more than an ignorant thug causing upset to law abiding neighbours and should have been jailed, with her stereo equipment given to a childrens home, youth club or charity and certainly not given back to her under any circumstances.

Anthony Cutt (07/11/2009 at 22:52)

'Difficult to believe that you two are adults, educated and have an intellect. Maybe I'm wrong on all counts.

You annoy the neighbours on a continual and continuous basis despite warnings to desist - that shows intent to disregard the comfort, peace and rights of others.

Of course she is going to lose the equipment used to make the noise. Pity she wasn't jailed for good measure.

Are you two REALLY adults? Do they let you vote? '

Erm, I lived on the border of Moss Side & Fallowfield for three years, a woman with a loud stereo would be the least of my worries. But doing something about feral children running around everywhere, doing something about parents who couldn't give a damn; that is all very difficult so the council do nothing. Going into a house & stealing someone posessions is easy & it looks good in the press so let's do that instead shall we?

And yes I am an adult & I am allowed to vote. I would consider part of being an adult would be to make you're point without resorting to insults.

citycentre, manchester (07/11/2009 at 23:47)

Is It Me?,

Sadly the way our current government draft legislation many things are now possible.
Chris Hunhe writing today tells us that allowed by the lax wording and lack of scrutiny of much recent legislation that the post office and trtansport for london are now able to sieze peoples property using laws passes to allow seizure of profits from crime.

jordy, Middleton (07/11/2009 at 23:58)

Anthony Cutt at 19:54, are you really that naive? They can confiscate items by law if a person has been given several warnings. It isn't stealing, she was breaking the law with high noise levels, simple as.

Spellbound , N Yorks (08/11/2009 at 00:11)

I fully agree with most of the posts except for Cutt & Whisper. Years ago I was plagued by noise, next door used to play loud music during the daytime then their kids came home from school and it was footballs bouncing on the wall between our houses every day, in summer we couldn't open the windows to air the rooms because the noise was even louder with the windows open. Across the road we had loud music at all hours day and night. Another house across the road was used for housing drug users etc. we had ambulances and fire brigade at the house most nights and were woken by all the blue flashing lights. Its nearly 20 years since we moved right away from that place and I only have to hear a foorball drop and I cringe and the sound brings back all we went through there. People should think about their neighbours and what illness and stress they are giving them.

Marc (08/11/2009 at 00:21)

'Vote Labour= vote fascist.'

can't the moderators be bothered with hiding themselves any more?

thoughtful, East of Manchester (08/11/2009 at 11:24)

HAving been the victim of a noisy neighbour I know just how much noise and for how long it has to go on before any real action is taken. It's so rare that it's considered newsworthy and that's sad. This stupid & inconsiderate woman must have ignored every single warning and court order before the council was forced to seize her stereo; it's not a case of a few complaints and in come the council, it involves sophisticated noise measuring equipment, printed out graphs over several days, and noise made outside of reasonable hours on a regular basis.

It's nice to see a council which takes action, ours seems to have given up.

thaitanium (08/11/2009 at 13:09)

What's next,removing crying babies?"We can only hope.

Anthony Cutt (08/11/2009 at 22:52)

'Vote Labour= vote fascist.'

can't the moderators be bothered with hiding themselves any more?
Marc ,

Apparently not given that a fair proportion of the posters here have resorted to personal imsults in lieu of reasoned opinion.

And yes, restriction of movement (by refusing to properly regulate fuel prices & public transport fares, also the congestion charge), total surveilance, ID cards, taking someone's new born child because you don't think the parent is 'intelligent' enough to have children (as Social Services in Fife are trying to do): all these are perfectly in line with facist policies. As is stripping people of their possesions, funding the banks whilst ignoring the ordinary man... you get the picture.

Joe Pub, Manchester (09/11/2009 at 00:51)

Spellbound
I know the feeling that you went through, as this as been happening to my wife and I for over 13 years, If you complain to this uncaring council with building traffic calming features, 24/7 all you hear is bump bump when vehicles speed over them, the vibratations,cracks appear in the walls They are there to slow traffic down this council say,but this council should try living with them, they are the biggest cowards I know, Its do as I say not wht we do.
We have suffered loud music from a neighbour who used to live in the flat above, and he had children, who used to jump of the furniture to the flool he diden't have carpets down just ties,and whem is friende called with their children,abour 6 kids would be jumping on the floor, I have had some arguements, which became hostile. I contacted the Manchester housing people about this, and having to slam the phone down, before I started to speak french swear words.

dessie, manchester (09/11/2009 at 08:22)

all these people having a go at the environmental officers, needs to live next door to these self minded idiots who blart out music all hours of the day, they would soon change their opinions

Angie33 , Manchester (09/11/2009 at 08:45)

I moved because of neighbour nuisance.Sorry I didnt do it years earlier now.The person who took my flat is now moving,and another neighbour moved soon after me.I never thought id hear myself say this ,but maybe instead of complaining,people ask for a move,then all the nuisances will be left living together.Years of having to monitor and keep diaries about other people takes its toll.As far as housing are concerned its easier to move the complainant.Ill never take it for granted again that Im settled for life.If I have a problem again and find Im the only person willing to speak up Ill put in for a move immidiately.I only moved a 10 minute walk and its another world.For now anyway.

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