The final death throws of a lame duck NuLab government.
Good riddance to them when the GE comes round next year ...the sooner the better.

Tut Tut Squire. Do not forget the good people of manchester vote for labour and must accept all actions were done in your name folks. Hopefully people will remember the list when voting next.
Devolution to the celtic nation. (Effect a separate nation ruling England and voting on Englisc issues) Making Scotland virtually independent.
Education x 3 a mass over burden on universities also creating debt for post graduates.
Health Service funding on computers still not fixed.
Immigration influx or invasion of Eastern Europeans.
Sidle up with a halfwit of a president of USA.
War in Iraq.
War in Afghanistan.
Blind eye to home grown terrorism.
Appeasers to the irish bombers.
Prudence Brown not setting measure for the banking industries.
Selling off the gold reserves.
Curtailing funding to MOD for modern day warfare.
Immigration not admitting to the effects on the nation welfare and employment. creating a situation where agencies only employ new influx. which this allows in recession mass unemployment to local people.

Scrappage scheme good in principal but failure for buying british only goods.
Remember manchester people voted for them.

""The final death throws of a lame duck NuLab government"" Squire of Newton

Well Brighton is one of those towns by the coast where pensioners go to die.....

And the Tories are in Manchester - which we will all agree is a vibrant happening City

Interesting blog....has anybody got any idea why Tameside Council have a stand and are giving away a £10,000 car?

Who care what this washed up/out party does anymore- They are only good at s***wing this once proud country to line their own pockets.

I'm voting green...

I wonder how much will be put on expenses during this conference.

My Granddad who is now in his 90s has voted Labour all his life and even he is sick of this mob and told me in no uncertain terms what he thinks of Brown and his cohorts. We need independent candidates with fresh ideas and a real willingness to sort things out not career politicians looking to get rich roll on the GE.

Englisc Stannes: "Scrappage scheme good in principal but failure for buying british only goods."

In what way is forcing the country into greater debt in order to sell cars that people don't particularly need a good idea?

A Salfordian: "We need independent candidates with fresh ideas and a real willingness to sort things out not career politicians looking to get rich"

Are you going to stand then?

Black Flag.The problem lay with the scrappage scheme itself relying to heavily on imported goods. In effect buying german or french and japan car goods is in effect supporting and adding coffers to their hit economy. As for the production of people are only buying the cars which were stored around the country not produced. Where are the cars, which are produced here offered at a cheaper rate to offset the imports vehicle. These could allow quite quickly ease the debt.
Germany and France protect their industries we don't why. Even Prudence Brown should have worked this out when he came in power. No point spouting "British jobs for British workers" if you don't back it up. So the other real problem is how in the next few years the direction of this country England needs a settled base for production, education and power. Otherwise we as this generation might as well sign lock stock and barrel to Euroland and accept the deals brokered on our behalf.

Englisc Stannes, that's a fairly economically naive viewpoint. Imports and exports are opposite sides of the same coin. In the long run, the reason we import goods is that other people are better at making those goods than we are and vice versa. Importing doesn't harm British industry, as much as protectionists might like to claim otherwise, because, in order to pay for those imports, we have to export an equal value.

The idea that governments can protect their industries is nonsensical. They can't do anything to protect one industry without harming another in the process. That's why people protested against the Corn Laws at Peterloo; the laws did a great job of protecting British agriculture, but they crippled manufacturing areas like Manchester.

The other problem that people who call on us to "Buy British" have is defining what that slogan actually means. Should I buy a Dyson vacuum, produced by a British owned company, but manufactured in Malaysia, or should I buy a Nissan car, produced by a Japanese owned company but manufactured in Sunderland? Which of those goods is more British?

Black Flag. I am merely pointing to the problem of where this country will be going next. What actual role this country is developing to. Signs are not very much good.I accept other countries have better production rate compared to ours. But we have squander ours badly. So basically you would like to see us in the future, as highly educated lay-abouts arguing, on some theoretical basis on mouse droppings of the late middle age period. In the mean time the wastrels in power quietly surrender all power to Euroland. This country has been battered by two tired governments losing grip. Yet we go idly by voting because "It's a tradition in the family to vote Labour or Conservative". Have you seen at what industries being developed here to employ the masses. Construction of council houses ?. Mass production of alternative energy ?. Better road infrastructure ?. Better rail infrastructure ?. Well what?. Thanks to Prudence Brown and his eye on the future policies, these are just pipe dreams. Yet the youngsters leaving schools and universities are wasting by in debt and no focus of direction. But as you have pointed out so clearly 'economically naive'.

Englisc Stannes: "So basically you would like to see us in the future, as highly educated lay-abouts arguing, on some theoretical basis on mouse droppings of the late middle age period."

I would like to see us all creating coherent sentences in the future, but I won't be holding my breath.

Other than that, I just want the government to keep it's nose out. If British car manufacturing has problems, it's down to one fundamental issue - as a nation, we aren't very good at it. Propping an industry up is the last thing the government should be doing. Deadweight industries should be left to die out as quickly as possible so that others have the opportunity to flourish and we can focus on the things we are best at.

Political loyalty is very similar to (many) football loyalty. Those who have fallen out of love with their club - United with the Glaziers / City with the Middle East group / Liverpool disillusioned with the DIC group / QPR with USA etc etc. Suddenly the fans are NOT going to support the "other team". 25% / 30% Labour Votes are in the bag (salford & m/cr city centre) / 25% / 30% Tory votes in the bag (trafford / bury) already without looking at agenda and personalities. But its the 40/50% floaters that the parties have to woo. Conferences are preaching to the choir.
I would suspect that Bolton is under threat but maybe not Wigan from a change from Red to Blue (I think Rochdale is SDP).

What ever colour the 10 areas in M/cr become I think Brown is toast..
The stench of death is around him and new labour. Mandelson said he will work for the govt in power in any capacity after the next election so even he is hedging his bets, feathering his nest.

So it boils down to:
Brown - Captian Cadaver
Cameron - Eton Toff
Clegg - I've slept with 30 women so I understand women politics.

I think the traditional Labour voters will be reduced to 15%/20% and those who now hate "new labour" and all the Blair/Brown emptyness will now vote SDLP as a "protest" vote. A bit like traditional Man Utd fans who now "love the team / hate the club" now support FC United or Bury or Altrincham but never City. Tories will win, Labour will be defeated badly but SDLP may hold the balance of power so there is no overall majority.

Prediction: Tory 45%
SDLP 25%
Lab 15%
Other 15%

What is a shame there is going to be very little positive voting going on.