"IT was the Met office who promised us a barbecue summer - not the Government," chortled Home Secretary Alan Johnson as he swept into Manchester yesterday to officially unveil the image of the new ID cards.
Cute gag, considering the recent shocking weather. Though judging by the temperature of public opinion there are plenty who would love to see this political hot potato reduced to ashes.
ID cards opinion: Chris Grayling
Actually, as hot political potatoes go, the identity card hardly seems grand enough to earn such a description. At best, this little oblong piece of pale pink plastic looks like the sort of thing you swipe to earn supermarket loyalty points.
But that, booms Mr Johnson good naturedly, is the point. And there needs to be a point since their voluntary status has netted countless accusations that the ID card is an intrusive gimmick and a flawed panacea for all of our nation's ills. Is the point that it's, well, pointless?
Johnson, who sounds a little like he has learned his arguments by heart, doesn't miss a beat.
"This is a safe, secure system to protect and prove identity, that locks in your image and lasts ten years. People are asked to prove their identity again and again. For example, the pandemic flu service will ask for proof of identity if you want to get anti-virals.
"The ID card is a convenient piece of plastic to carry around, so much easier than having to produce six months of bank statements or crumpled gas bills. Of course people can use their passports to prove ID but that's a far more valuable document to have to carry around - about 3,300 are lost each year and cost a lot more to replace. In a world where people are constantly asked to prove their identity this is one convenient way of doing it."
Hysteria
Nevertheless, the subject of ID cards has whipped up a storm of protest ever since the idea was first mooted. Indeed the seemingly gale force hysteria that mirrored their proposed introduction triggered a dramatic break with years of Labour policy, leading to what appeared to be a scrapping of plans to make them compulsory.
Instead the £200m scheme, which is initially being rolled out right here in Manchester (we earned this accolade, says Johnson because we are 'a great, vibrant city and it's good to test this on an area with a large urban population') seems far more focused on persuading youngsters to part with £30 so they can legitimately sink a few drinks at their local pub.
Personally, I've never really understood what the fuss was all about. The newly unveiled card reveals your name, date of birth, signature, photograph and holds your fingerprint on a secure electronic chip. That's it.
Perhaps the government, didn't have the stomach for a fight. But if they aren't going to be compulsory then how can they be worth the bother?
Alan Johnson is clearly too seasoned a player to get ruffled by this line of attack. Indeed he says that British citizens should never be forced to carry or even own the cards.
"I don't think it would be right to insist that they were compulsory. Our 2005 manifesto promise said it would be a voluntary scheme. It's a total fabrication to argue that we said it would be compulsory - that would require new, primary legislation. Either you have to trust the facts or the myths."
Technology
Certainly the new cards harness the very latest in technology. In fact everyone who wants a biometric passport will still have their details stored on the huge national identity register database. Which as those easily-ruffled civil liberties groups argue still amounts to a compulsory scheme, as anybody getting a passport from around 2011 will have no option but to sign up.
Johnson insists the two had to be locked together otherwise you could be more than one person.
Could ID cards be the precursor to a one-size-fits all product that can act as a credit card, a passport or indeed any other way we want to disseminate information about ourselves?
"Well, we can only take this one step at a time but I can see it getting to the stage where they could replace passports. They can already be used as a passport when travelling through Europe. Who knows where the new technology could lead? Though of course this would all require fresh legislation and we haven't got to first base yet."
So far only 3,500 have signed up for cards in Manchester. Are we Mancunians indifferent, unwilling to part with £30 during in such a savage economic climate, or have we been tainted by the card's very vocal detractors? It's hard to tell. Anyway, it may yet be academic. With Labour flagging in the polls, and Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling, vowing to scrap them should his party win the next General Election, the scheme could be at best short-lived.
But Alan Johnson is having none of it. "This is something for the 21st century which is why 24 out of 27 European countries are doing it. ID cards make absolute common sense."
It's a fair argument. But when it comes to cards, it's the electorate who hold the best ones. Only time will tell which way they choose to play them.....
ID cards opinion: Chris Grayling
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Zimmerman, manchester (31/07/2009 at 12:21)
NWmancCUB (31/07/2009 at 12:31)
Black Flag (31/07/2009 at 12:34)
Is the man incapable of rational thought? Firstly, why would an ID card be inherently less valuable than a passport? Secondly, isn't it fairly obvious that if relatively inconvenient to carry passports are being lost at a certain rate, an ID card, which is deliberately designed to be easy to carry, is going to be lost much more frequently.
If we are constantly asked to prove our identity, it is because this grubby control freak government forces others to demand ID far too frequently. Get a decent government in place which respects freedom and the necessity disappears.
Black Flag (31/07/2009 at 12:56)
In case anybody misinterprets this, the communities in question are Irish Nationalists in Northern Ireland.
Mad Welsh Scotsman, Cadishead (31/07/2009 at 13:02)
Maybe but thanks to the government, we can't all afford to have barbecue's or holidays so the weather is irrelevant
Ran Droid, Manchester (31/07/2009 at 13:02)
Biometric cards have also failed to stop terrorist attacks in countries that have them.
The government has shown it cannot be trusted with data - both by losing it and selling it on.
The government has consistently lied about costs associated with ID cards.
The government has consistently shown a total lack of knowledge of the underlying technology and security issues.
And 3,500 people have signed up these? There's a saying about a fools and their money...
Mad Welsh Scotsman, Cadishead (31/07/2009 at 13:06)
Mad Welsh Scotsman, Cadishead (31/07/2009 at 13:12)
We are being made to pay to cover mistakes they've made over the last 11 years. This, in a country, our forefathers faught to protect from tyranny and dictatorship
Mark,Radcliffe. (31/07/2009 at 13:21)
J. Peasmold Gruntfuttock, King of Peasmouldia (31/07/2009 at 13:38)
Thomas Paine, Salford (31/07/2009 at 13:44)
ID cards will not prevent terrorists, does taking a driving licence off a car thief stop him stealing cars?
This is a scheme that makes the Government look like it is battling the war on terror. The money would be better invested in customs staff & MI5/6 if that wanted to see a difference.
salfordrat (31/07/2009 at 14:25)
ENGINEER, Heywood (31/07/2009 at 14:40)
Pesonally I am in favour of one as most EU countried have them and it does not seem to be a problem there.
As for preventing Terrorists unfortunatley no amount of security will ever prevent determined Terrorists and some like Al Queada and ETTA have home grown terrorists.
What it would do is to aid the police in identifying the scum that continue to blight our lives as shown in police shows where the person stopped continually lies about who they are wasting time and effort.
Microchipping everyone sounds good but science fiction, will never happen but there should be a national DNA database of everyone in the country and all those who are here illegally that get caught and are then released to get to police stations or imigration offices then if caught again cannot deny who they are.
BUt this could go on for pages as to what is wrong with this country and is open border policies sufice to say that this country is just a soft touch for all the worlds criminals to smuggle people and drugs into this country.
Almighty God, Salford (31/07/2009 at 15:49)
I'm never getting one of these, ever. Fact.
If you want one/think its a good idea, you are whats wrong with this country.
Mike S, Manchester (31/07/2009 at 16:10)
Mark,Radcliffe. (31/07/2009 at 17:09)
Orb the Impaler, Rochdale (31/07/2009 at 17:39)
Andanotherthing, Mcr (31/07/2009 at 17:57)
I agree Mike, I worry a little that the pressure is on anyone slightly non British looking might just think "sod it I'll have one to wave."
I would ask Angela to investigate her own question "Why would anyone with nothing to hide..?" But I fear she is not up to it.
salfordrat (31/07/2009 at 18:02)
I dont expect you to print this, or at least heavily edit it, but at least be aware that this kind of things is an insult to those of us who bother to boost your readership by posting our opinions on this site.
salfordrat (31/07/2009 at 18:12)
Theowolfe (31/07/2009 at 18:48)
Well that is the point, if this journalist (I use the term loosely) doesn't understand that it is not just a piece of plastic. It changes the nature of the reltionship between the State and the individual.
Someone going about their lawful business should not have to prove to an officious Police Officer who they are. The civil rights of individuals to go unhindered is compromised. With the introduction of these cards the State takes it upon itself to gift thes rights. The State should not have these rights handed back to it, they were hard won.
If little Miss Princess Gene doesn't understand that, it would appear that she is incapable of critical analysis. It is up to everyone to form a judgement, for or against, but that judgement should based on an understanding of what is at stake.
As Benjamin Franklin said in 1755 "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
That is truer today than ever.
Andanotherthing, Mcr (31/07/2009 at 20:01)
Andanotherthing, Mcr (31/07/2009 at 20:13)
nyb, ex manc (01/08/2009 at 10:44)
"Oh yeah! What is it?"
"A card with all your personal details on..to you just 30 beer tokens, whaddya say? Cool or what?"
"Where do you get my details from?"
"You give them to us, we put them on a database which is secure and operated by trained halfwits, then you got all your ID details safe in one place...perfect or what?"
"So I give you £30 and all my details, and I a plastic card for ID purposes, that's it..anything else I need to know?"
"Well you need to keep us informed of any changes to your personal information details."
"And if I don't"
Sharp intake of breath..."It'll cost ya."
"How much?"
Another sharp intake of breath..."Could be up to £1000."
"Is that it then, anything else I should know?"
"Er well, the card has an unlimited capacity to hold information, and we reserve the right to expand the details we hold on the database, just in case there is a change of government, and we decide to come clean have an official Police State."
"Sounds brilliant, I'll take two!!!!!!!!"
Horatio Dogsbody, Flixton (01/08/2009 at 11:26)
I thought extortion was illegal.