Gangster Joyce's video complaint

Nicola Dowling

June 18, 2009

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DOUBLE murderer Colin Joyce claimed police infringed his human rights - `damaging his reputation' by releasing surveillance footage of him pulling faces.

The revelation comes as relatives of the Gooch gang leader demanded compensation for posters featuring the murderer, which they said breached THEIR human rights.

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Joyce made the complaint two years ago and also alleged police used excessive force against him when he was arrested in 2007.

Joyce was convicted of murdering Tyrone Gilbert, 23, and Ucal Chin, 24, and an attempted murder. He was jailed for life along with accomplice Lee Amos, and nine other gang members were jailed.

Dangerous man

An officer close to the investigation said: "How on earth could we damage a double murderer's reputation? We simply stated that he was a leading member of a gun gang, which has since been proven in court.

"As for his suggestion that officers used excessive force in arresting him, we are talking here about a very dangerous man who has access to firearms and has been found guilty of two fatal shootings - now that's excessive force."

As reported in the M.E.N. yesterday, relatives of Joyce and Amos are demanding compensation claiming their human rights had been infringed by police posters put up showing how the two men would look by the time they got out of prison.

The claim was made with the help of lawyers from campaign group Liberty who wrote to GMP saying relatives had experienced prejudice as a result of their connection with the pair.

They said it had been made worse by the posters put up in south Manchester for a month after they were convicted in April this year. Liberty lawyers said police should have informed family members of their plans to put up the posters.

Compensation

The letter `invited' police to admit that their decision to launch the poster campaign was unlawful and to pay a number of relatives compensation.

GMP chief constable Peter Fahy said he had spoken to Liberty director Shami Chakrabarti and was firm in his opinion the poster campaign had been the right thing to do.

Mr Fahy also hit out at Ms Chakrabarti's comments the posters were an attempt to `stir up trouble' which could lead to vigilante action.

He said: "I am very disappointed by that line because we have no desire to do that at all.

"We are out there every single night breaking up gang activity. There is no way that when we are involved in this every day that we would want to `stir things up'."

Gangsters' relatives seek compensation

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Free Red, Manchester (18/06/2009 at 09:47)

SCUM!

Mark,Radcliffe. (18/06/2009 at 09:53)

Mr Joyce,having read several online forum posters,since your glorious incarceration,I think the phrase is.."Jog on".

Bejjy ex Salford now Malta, Malta (18/06/2009 at 10:16)

The gangster and murderer Colin Joyce claims that surveillance footage of him "damaged his reputation" What reputation is Joyce talking about and what planet does Joyce and people like him live on?

George Roper (18/06/2009 at 10:25)

The problem is not with the individuals concerned but the availability of legal aid. Too often public money is made available for lawyers to take on ridiculous claims. Chakrabati needs to come down from her ivory tower and try living cheek by jowel with this scum. She might then have a different attitude on how we deal with the problems facing the police.

Jay B, oldham (18/06/2009 at 10:34)

Scum at its finest! they have no human rights! they are not human!

meldroo, Oldham (18/06/2009 at 10:48)

He ain't laughing now though is he! This ridiculous human rights rubbish needs to be nipped in the bud right now!This scumbag and his sort have no rights whatsoever!

Billy Brag (18/06/2009 at 11:06)

I'm going to suggest that if you didn't want people to know you were related to this chap, the papers would be a the bottom of your 'people to talk to list'. The underclass are given too much time in this country, these left wing morons from organisations such as 'liberty' will be on the other end of their violence one day. I'd be intrested to see if they'd still be waving banners in the street if he'd killed a member of their family.
We've give people like him the vote, lets stop this politically correct, human rights, namby pamby society before it goes any further!

merlin, Manchester (18/06/2009 at 11:07)

Money suckers, I guess his family are the same as him, and that's my civil liberty to say.

Guten Tag, Manchester (18/06/2009 at 11:10)

I would have thought he'd have more important things to worry about instead of his human rights, like ticking off the days to do on his home-made calender or dropping the soap in the shower?

duncan harris (18/06/2009 at 11:27)

Damaging his reputation ?? Did I read that correctly ?

Amounderness Lad, Caithness (18/06/2009 at 12:01)

This complain is nothing more than an attempt to seek some kind of revenge against the police for having put an end to the thug's gangster activities.

What will people dream of next to try to make lots of money out of being convicted of criminal activities? Demanding compensation from the press and media? trying to claim the Judge and Jury infringed their civil rights by telling the public they were guilty?

I can't believe anybody with one ounce of intelligence is doing anything but fall over laughing at the whole charade. If anybody has infringed Joyce’s families civil liberties and drawn unwanted attention to them it is Joyce himself by his murderous criminal activities.

Trying to blame the police for the notoriety he has so determinedly brought on himself, and on which his violent criminal activities largely depended, is nothing other than comical. Those involved in taking his complaints seriously and thereby actively encouraging both him and others to do the same is an insult to his victims, their families and to the law-abiding public at large.

They should hang their heads in shame.

JAB, Republic of Mancunia (18/06/2009 at 12:14)

As soon as somebody is convicted, they should lose any human rights/ civil liberties.

The Real Ferrari (18/06/2009 at 12:44)

his days of standing on the street, eating sweets and pulling faces are long gone

warrman, cheshire (18/06/2009 at 12:51)

'Gangster's' - more like idiot's who can only fight in group's.. hanging around on street corner's in their mid-twenty's.. on mountain bike without a pot to **** in!
The real gangster's are living the high life in the Costa's sunning themselves in their hilltop villa's..
Stick them poster's up in there cell's. End off.

Cavalier Jackson, Tameside (18/06/2009 at 12:59)

The man is a bully nothing more. Fancies himself as a gangster no doubt only when surrounded by equally brain challenged morons. They should send him to solitary and accidentally leave him there for life. No one would miss a loser like this

Mustafa Say (18/06/2009 at 13:03)

Murdering Moss Side low life scum.

gerts, South Manchester (18/06/2009 at 13:03)

Isn't that what gansters do- trying to look tough???????????

Gary SK13 (18/06/2009 at 13:03)

He does not deserve anymore column inches, let's all forget about him as he lives out the rest of his pathetic life behind bars.

North Bury, Bury (18/06/2009 at 13:20)

Where there's blame there's a claim. Behind every story there's a legal aid, no win no fee, ambulance chaser.

Esso Blue. G. Barry, it's a Done Deal. Next, Manchester (18/06/2009 at 13:25)

It is disrespect,disrespect, Respect, you can't show him looking like a muppet. His fellow muppets had a laugh at his comic look and that has caused turmoil in his nugget.

Jayne, Manchester (18/06/2009 at 13:28)

Yeap I agree that the footage has obviously damaged his reputation - almost as much as the fact that he is a convicted murderer ! What next the colour of his cell or perhaps whats on the menu - human rights don't make me laugh. The sooner Legal Aid is no longer available to morons like this the sooner the stories will go away - he is banged up for a long time as he deserves leave him to rot !!

Nate Locc (18/06/2009 at 13:29)

" DOUBLE murderer Colin Joyce claimed police infringed his human rights - `damaging his reputation' by releasing surveillance footage of him pulling faces."

When he means reputation he probably mean's reputation of his little stupid young footsoldier cadets and not reputation of himself as a decent man.What a wste of life (Colin Joyce).Its obvious that joyce is an intelligent man because he was the mastermind of a £1 milllion pounds a year drugs market and the way he planned those double killings.If only he used that business motive to start a legit company and make something of himself.

Shame.

George Kane, Stretford (18/06/2009 at 13:45)

The CO OP should sue him for damaging their brand.

hjk (18/06/2009 at 13:48)

Joyce lost his human rights when he picked up a gun. The Police should put a counterclaim in setting out what it cost the taxpayers to put him and his handrags behind bars.

Ed from Davyhulme, Manchester (18/06/2009 at 13:55)

The relatives are being poorly advised. Liberty must be well aware that the prejudice the families have experienced will be nothing compared to the public furore if this case ever gets to court, and even more so if they win compensation from GMP. They would be better off keeping their heads down and letting this blow over.

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