THOUSANDS of fruit trees and bushes are to be planted in Manchester - with an invitation to `Help Yourself'.
Vegetable patches and beehives will also be set up as part of the £200,000 scheme.
The council fears local children don't know where fruit comes from.
The plans involve:
Putting fruit and nut trees or vegetable patches in each of the city's 135 parks and woods
Planting 20,000 strawberry, raspberry and soft fruit bushes around the city
Setting up beehives in a dozen parks and allotments
Planting free herbs such as mint and parsley in every city park
City centre sites such as Sackville Gardens, St John's Gardens and the Parsonage Gardens will be among the locations boasting new fruit trees. The plants will feature a sign which states the name of the plant and the correct time to pick it.
Vegetable patches with potatoes, tomatoes, carrots and turnips will also be set up in parks - but because these are more labour-intensive than fruit plants, their produce will go to local volunteers who help look after them.
The three-year plan will also aim to reintroduce endangered or rare fruits such as mulberries, damsons and greengages.
Beehives are being set up in six hives and eight allotments throughout the city - with each site capable of producing up to 80lbs of honey a year.
Park staff and volunteers will be trained how to safely handle the hives by the Manchester Beekeepers Association at Heaton Park.
If the pilot is successful, hives will be set up in all parks and council bosses say they may eventually produce `Manchester Council' honey and wax.
Chaz Farghaly, the council's parks and leisure boss, said the plan was for every Mancunian to be within walking distance of a fruit or veg patch.
He said: "Historically there have been very few fruit trees in our parks and we were amazed by the number of young people who told us they didn't know where fruit and veg came from.
"We also want to save things that are dying out in this country such as damsons, greengages and walnuts.
"It became clear from people we spoke to at allotments and friends of parks groups that there is enough interest to not only re-introduce fruit and veg for educational reasons but for people to tend and actually eat.
"These are public areas and there is no reason why people shouldn't be able to help themselves to the produce grown."
Initially, orchards and soft fruit canes will be planted in a dozen parks. Flowerbeds in several other undisclosed but `high profile' locations will be transformed into vegetable patches.
Park wardens will also run extra workshops in how to tend plants and harvest their fruit for schools and members of the public.
Until three years ago, only one Manchester park had fruit trees. Orchards growing apples, pears and plums have recently been planted at Debdale Park in Gorton and Platt Fields Park - and others are soon to follow.
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dessie, manchester (21/04/2009 at 08:48)
The stinking kipper, pinned under the table (21/04/2009 at 09:03)
Grow up and get to grips with the world we live in. The gentle days have gone thanks to social engineering.
Mark,Radcliffe. (21/04/2009 at 11:24)
Angie33 , Manchester (21/04/2009 at 11:45)
Guten Tag, Stress Strabe, Manchester (21/04/2009 at 12:43)
toast (21/04/2009 at 12:53)
The stinking kipper... in some beautiful woodland near a particuarly demonised manchester suburb there is a little orchard full of fruit trees, these are for the public and every autumn people from all around come down and pick enough for themselves and leave enough for everyone else on a lovely day like those we are having it is a stunning oasis of calm.
If the gentle days have gone thanks to 'social engineering', then surely you are being part of this by spreading uncertainty and doubt when a positive message appears. - things like this already exist all over manchester and if we are to ever get back whatever 'gentle days' it is you hark back to, then surely giving more ideas like this a chance would be the way forward?
Jan Elliott (21/04/2009 at 13:43)
The stinking kipper, pinned under the table (21/04/2009 at 14:23)
Toast - I don't belive your orchard story.
Angie33 , Manchester (21/04/2009 at 14:27)
Ive worked for many years clearing tons of rubbish,prettying up the area and bringing people together to work on garden projects in the most deprived areas and amongst the most negative communities.
I know it works.IF SOMEODY OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
You cannot compare an area like Hulme for instance where a large number of students and middle class people live who often start and support projects like this.They have not had the years of fear and oppression,to a deprived area in North Manchester,where 100 times a day people tell you that you are wasting your time.Sometimes they are happy if plants are pulled up and thrown around as it proves their point.
I have got up at 5am to replace plants and clear cans and bottles so they wouldnt be seen and demoralize volunteers of all ages.
To say I was burned out after 10yrs is an understatement.I was left with frustration and raging anger at the lack of understanding by councils ,who did things like cutting back bushes severly and exposing all the years of rubbish immidiatly before 'Britain in Bloom 'judges arrived.Having to have a tantrum to get the streets swept around our projects etc etc.So DONT TELL ME WHAT i CAN OR CANNOT SAY ON THIS SUBJECT.
or make snide remarks about my writing style or mistakes.I am a busy woman and I have more to think about and squeeze comments on here between many other tasks.
Esso Blue. , Manchester. (21/04/2009 at 16:11)
nyb, ex manc (22/04/2009 at 11:51)
The council should encourage the planting and growing of all kinds of plants, trees, shrubs, edible or ornamental. People should also be encouraged to reclaim derelict ground for communities to turn into green oases.
The stinking kipper, pinned under the table (22/04/2009 at 11:56)
Jan Elliott (22/04/2009 at 13:31)
It just takes a bit of belief in people, a bit of effort is not too much of a leap of faith - and as I have already said, yes there are those prats that only want to destroy...maybe you are one of them, which is why you have no faith in human nature? Get a grip!
Jan Elliott (22/04/2009 at 13:37)
zarquon, bramhall (22/04/2009 at 14:15)
Andrew Cooper (22/04/2009 at 15:14)
But now let’s look at the reality of things and sorry if this sound cynical but let’s be real!
If the trees do actually make it to maturity and get big enough to produce lots of fruit and the bushes and plants big enough to produce fruits like strawberries. Lets face it that’s a big IF! With the vandals intent on destroying anything that any normal decent person might enjoy and respect.
Then we have the other more devious type looking for a way to cash in and sue the local council when little jonnie falls out of the apple tree he was climbing and breaks his arm trying to get the free apples.
Or when as they are lying under the apple tree on a late summers day enjoying an apple they just picked. They sue the council again because as they were looking up an apple fell off the tree and gave them a black eye!
Or "I'm suing you because my little boy was so sick from your fruit bushes when he ate all those strawberries!" When really it was just a case of the parents didn’t give a stuff where their kid was when he was eating the fruit, or had no idea that you shouldn’t eat fruit that’s not ripe or eat so much that it makes you sick!
Like I said a nice idea in an ideal world but unfortunately this world for all its nice parks and country side is populated with just enough far from ideal people who are only out for themselves or out to wreck anything nice.
Not everyone is like this but there are just enough to make this a plan best left filed under " law suit waiting to happen! ".
Andrew Cooper (22/04/2009 at 15:34)
Sorry about this me again.
To quote Angie "They have not had the years of fear and oppression". I have and still do to a certain extent live in deprived area in North Manchester. I have had to put up with years of agro from kids giving abuse and people showing no respect for each other so YES I do know what its like!
Like I have said before there are just enough nasty twisted minded people(and I'm being polite here when I use my words!) to make this kind of thing not really workable.
The stinking kipper, pinned under the table (22/04/2009 at 16:02)
Fact is, it's an idiotic idea and its supporters are naive fools living in Lah Lah.
The council constantly come up with idiocy like this.
Angie33 , Manchester (22/04/2009 at 16:14)
This is a common scenario.When parks are safe I have many ideas about making them interesting and enjoyable.Until then the idea may work in decent areas but young trees and plants dont survive here.They are wrecked or stolen.
The reason they survived on projects Ive been involved in was because the area was maintained on a daily basis.Damage restored,local kids teens involved and praised.Its hard to keep up and the least bit of damage can make volunteers give up.
I saw times when even the most difficult teens were proud and protective.
Then being near a park kids who were not from the area would come and throw plants at passing cars.Prior to doing any planting we picked up litter every day for months and got bins.People dont drop litter as much in clean areas.I learned a lot over the years.Law and order in public spaces needs to be restored before councils can expect residents/tenants to do their bit.
Incredible Edible Todmorden (22/04/2009 at 19:05)
Angie33 , Manchester (22/04/2009 at 19:48)
Whatever anyone says may be true at times.I cant stand to read my own posts.There is no bigger critic of myself than me.I cringe at the preachy tone that sometimes appears.Smug-Yes guilty.Angry-yes.Intolerantyes.Opinionated,contradictaryand so on.Next day kind I hope,tolerant etc.Human with all the faults and frailties.In fact at times very fragile in equal proportion to tough at times.Its fine.Ive been writing about where Ive lived for many years,mostly from personal experience.Im not good at facts.I leave that to those who are.If people think its odd thats their problem.Its how Ive coped.
nyb, ex manc (22/04/2009 at 20:33)
Used to make the "parky's" life a misery in Alec Park.
Tree Hugger, Newton Heath (23/04/2009 at 02:39)
It's had some fruit trees (10) in it for over 25 years. And the fruit is collected by the community and none of what is being described above ever happens.
I look forward to more fruit trees and natures bounty
Angie33 , Manchester (23/04/2009 at 09:01)
The stinking kipper, pinned under the table (23/04/2009 at 09:19)
Are you saying that the furntiture in your park has been there for 10 years and suffered no real damage? I don't believe it.