And he bristles at the mention of the man-sized shark used by the No campaign.
"We can all have a laugh, but we are talking here about tens of thousands of people's jobs and the future of the region," says Hodges, director of the Yes Campaign. "During what everyone agrees are going to be some serious, difficult times, you've got to conduct the debate at a better level than a man running around dressed as a fish."
Hodges lightens, though, as he recalls that one environmental group supporting the Yes Campaign is making its case with a burly squirrel. The thought occurs fleetingly, that the biggest exercise in local democracy could be replaced by a Harry Hill-style fight between two men dressed as a shark and a squirrel.
Hodges is, one national newspaper political editor once said, "the most proactive press officer in the business". He is also the son of Oscar-winning actor and Labour MP for Hampstead and Highgate, Glenda Jackson. The 39-year-old Londoner went to college in Ormskirk and worked for his Birkenhead-born mother in the House of Commons for five years until the Labour landslide of 1997 made her a junior minister in charge of London transport.
Hodges then applied for a job at the Road Haulage Association under Steven Norris, the former Tory transport minister his mother had so frequently bumped up against in the Commons.
"I sent my CV with a covering letter saying: `If nothing else, I hope you're impressed with the irony'," says Hodges. He got the job. From the RHA, he went to the GMB union, ran his own PR business for a time, but after his wife had their son Jack, now aged two, he went to work for Transport for London. So Hodges is well used to defending a congestion charge.
"The significant difference between the London congestion charge and the charge here is that it is a targeted charge that deals with congestion at peak times," says Hodges. "Anybody who drives outside those peak times, or in peak times in the opposite direction, will not have to pay."
And it is those who will not pay who feature in the Yes Campaign's big poster campaign - the off-peak traveller, the bus and train commuter - with the message "9 out of 10 people won't pay". The campaign attempts to convince people that the charge is the fairest way to pay for public transport improvements.
Improvements
"The key difference between ourselves and other congestion charge schemes is we are striking a deal with the public, saying we are going to give you the public transport improvements before the charge comes in."
As the campaign goes on, Hodges will spread the message that pensioners at the bus stop at dusk can expect a CCTV camera to be watching over their safety, and the train commuters now in sardine conditions will have seats for their journey into work. Even drivers will benefit, the argument goes, because they will see their journey times reduced.
The bid would see more than £2.75bn ploughed into transport schemes, including £318m to set up a peak hour, weekday-only congestion charge. Some £1.2bn of the total would be in the form of a loan, paid back over 30 years out of profits from the charge.
Behind the Yes campaign stands a coalition of businesses, trade unions, environmental bodies, voluntary associations, pensioners' groups, students and low pay campaigners.
United City, the business division of the Yes Campaign, has 161 members, including property companies Bruntwood, Ask Developments and Urban Splash, architects such as Ian Simpson of Urbis and Beetham Tower renown, lawyers, hoteliers and a host of others. Seventy of those members have made donations to the campaign ranging from £2,000 to £10,000.
"Where else would you have an environmental campaigner sitting next to a businessman, or a pensioners' group sitting next to a student group?" says Hodges.
The campaign is not, he stresses, funded from public money and is independent of Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Authority and the Association of Greater Manchester Authorities. The total budget for the campaign is simply unknown, Hodges says, as it depends how much comes in through donations. The Yes campaign argues that there is no Plan B. No congestion charge, no public transport improvements.
"I'm convinced that, whatever happens, in 15 years time, Manchester will have a congestion charge, like every major world city," he says. "Trouble is, that in 15 years time, if a congestion charge is introduced, Manchester won't get £1.5bn of government investment to public transport.
"This is not a referendum on `Do you want a congestion charge?'. It is a referendum on `Do you want better buses, better trains and a Metrolink that goes where you want?'."
But is a recession the right time to clobber people with another form of tax?
"Set aside the number of jobs we lose if congestion is allowed to go on," says Hodges. "You are talking about 10,000 direct jobs created on the back of this package.
"There will be jobs in construction, building stations and new buses, building the new Metrolink, new drivers and new administrative staff. If people vote yes in December, by next March, 500 new jobs will have been created in Manchester doing preparatory work for the project."
Yes Campaign: wevoteyes.co.uk
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Man made Climate Change is NONSENSE, Cheadle Hulme (03/11/2008 at 07:31)
Pentest 2, Hyde (03/11/2008 at 07:51)
Kick this rip off 'CON' tax in the gutter, where it belongs.
DaveB, Manchester (03/11/2008 at 08:46)
Rt Hon Dr Rev MC Spanner MP QC FCA FRICS JP OK (03/11/2008 at 08:58)
PS Squirrel are vermin
Rt Hon Dr Rev MC Spanner MP QC FCA FRICS JP OK (03/11/2008 at 09:02)
The no campaign article doesn't seem to use words like earnest. Wonder Why
Rammylad (03/11/2008 at 09:12)
They are Evil little creatures that need to be culled.
Chris Green, Chorlton-cum-Hardy (03/11/2008 at 09:20)
Several days after a pensioner has been mugged we'll now be able to review the footage and know that the perpertrator was wearing a hoody!
Chris Green, Chorlton-cum-Hardy (03/11/2008 at 09:27)
This is probably hinting at why certain people are so keen on the congestion charge scheme. There will, no doubt, be lots of highly paid jobs, at tax payers’ expense, and how ever will they select the right candidates?
Jay B, oldham (03/11/2008 at 09:30)
no its a bribe! and we all see it.
Rt Hon Dr Rev MC Spanner MP QC FCA FRICS JP OK (03/11/2008 at 10:01)
Wythenshawe? No thanks!!
Call me Dave (03/11/2008 at 10:10)
IanJ, Blackrod (03/11/2008 at 10:11)
But that's one of the biggest lies - it won't and never will.
Trumpetman21 (03/11/2008 at 10:11)
Ah, so can Dan Hodges tell me when Metrolink will be coming to Cadishead or Irlam?
Thought not.
Rt Hon Dr Rev MC Spanner MP QC FCA FRICS JP OK (03/11/2008 at 10:20)
Would it be wrong to point out that an early painful death can actually save money in pensions, healthcare etc. Would it be wrong to say that each road death will help cut the carbon footprint. Better still, if you are going to knock somebody over, make sure they are on benefits.
What does it say about the whole YES campaign when death is a monetary value? But then the whole YES campaign has been about I'm alright Jack. I don't care if you can't heat your house this winter becuase your £1200 is paying for my five minutes saved travelling to Derker.
Rt Hon Dr Rev MC Spanner MP QC FCA FRICS JP OK (03/11/2008 at 10:22)
Whenever they can gain at the expense of others. Please note the people that are not there. Workers
Kiwi-blue, Christchurch NZ (03/11/2008 at 13:37)
Kevin Peel, Manchester (03/11/2008 at 14:00)
Exactly. So lets hear no more from the no nuts and their raving lunacy about stealth taxes. Lets shift the debate and make it about whether or not people want a world class public transport system that can carry more people to more destinations more quickly and conveniently.
I think I know the answer people will give to that - YES!
IanJ, Blackrod (03/11/2008 at 14:23)
Of course everyone wants a world class system - nobody would refute that.
But will the TIF proposals deliver a world class system? a resounding NO
Will we be saddled with a 30 year debt? YES
Has the motorist already paid for this? YES
You should be asking central government how it has squandered that money.
If you ordered an item of furniture and paid for it, would you be happy to pay again before it was delivered?
I would vote Yes for a world class system - problem is, the TIF proposals fall far short of that.
Kevin Peel, Manchester (03/11/2008 at 14:45)
You're right. Not world class at all.
IanJ, Blackrod (03/11/2008 at 15:03)
"Tripling the Metrolink system, doubling up trams"
only in part of GM, while others get a consolation prize of a 10 minute bus service increased to 8 minute - whoopee do!
"and putting extra carriages on trains at peak times"
already getting them. Besides how come we get second hand rolling stock from Birmingham, which they replace with new stock without a congestion charge?
"massive investment in more and better buses"
unless you work less than five miles from home, a bus is not viable. Wonderful new buses are no consolation if it still takes 2 hours to travel 16 miles compared with 30 minutes by car.
"integrated ticketing"
perfectly possible if the politicians had the guts to make all the private companies work together.
"new stations and interchanges"
Station improvements and interchanges we are already getting.
"guaranteed seats on a yellow school bus for every primary school child"
exactly how does that work when the number of buses proposed is not enough to cover all the schools?
WORLD CLASS is where the trains are so frequent that you don't need to check the timetable, you just turn up. We will still have hourly services under the TIF proposals.
WORLD CLASS is where it is cheaper and quicker than car, not 3-4 times the journey time.
WORLD CLASS is where I can get quickly from one satellite town to another without travelling into the city centre.
WORLD CLASS is not what is being proposed.
Kevin Peel, Manchester (03/11/2008 at 15:09)
IanJ, Blackrod (03/11/2008 at 15:17)
Err no. Unlike the majority of the yes camp, I have actually researched my alternatives both now and post TIF.
we deserve better (03/11/2008 at 15:19)
"...guaranteed seats on a yellow school bus for every primary school child"
Where did you get that from or have you made it up? I can assure you, there is no such provision being made in Stockport.
So you think the TIF bid proposals are world class? Dear oh dear.
Oh I forgot to mention, the Government have just approved the reduction of train services through Stockport.
World class? More like Third world.
David Smith (03/11/2008 at 15:38)
How about halving the number of trams on the Metrolink, halving the numbers of buses, not building any new stops or interchanges and use the money saved to provide a WORLD CLASS ROAD NETWORK that our road tax is supposed to provide us with!!
ebble, manchester (03/11/2008 at 15:46)
There is nothing to suggest that the people of Greater Manchester will be the first people stupid enough to vote themselves a new tax, though the people of Birmingham, Leeds and other Manchester sized UK cities will be hoping we are all that daft, especially in the current jobs climate!