BUS fares across Greater Manchester will be capped if congestion charging is brought in.
Prices are likely to be simplified with the introduction of two new bands - one for short journeys and a standard fare for all other trips.
Further capped fares are also planned which would allow unlimited travel for two hours, one day or a week. New `smartcards' would allow people to top up automatically and travel on trams as well as buses.
The capping, which is supported by the bus companies, is one of a number of proposed changes to Greater Manchester's transport innovation fund (TIF) bid. There will also be a 20 per cent discount on bus and tram tickets for low-paid workers, with the threshold likely to be the level of the minimum wage.
And the maximum daily amount anyone would pay under the congestion charge will be halved from £10 to £5. The original £10 maximum would not have affected many motorists as it was unlikely that they would pass through the congestion zones more than once during the peak-charge times.
But there were fears it could have hit delivery drivers needing to cross Manchester several times - so the maximum charge has now been set at £5.
Other changes include:
A new train station at Golborne, near Wigan
£20m investment in Salford Crescent station
A new Metrolink stop at Kingsway Business Park, next to the M62 near Rochdale
Sixty extra Yellow School Buses.
The East Lancs railway would be brought into service as a commuter railway from Rawtenstall through to Heywood and Manchester.
The revised proposals also contain a final list of those who would not pay the congestion charge.
Disabled drivers, motorcyclists, hackney carriages, minicabs, emergency vehicles and registered-recovery will all be exempt - as will anyone on their way to a medical appointment. Lis Phelan, of the TIF `yes' campaign, said fare-capping was `the news transport users have been waiting for'.
"The combination of a fare cap, simpler tickets and lower fares for low-paid workers is welcome news for bus passengers in Greater Manchester," she said. "This will make a real difference to the household budgets of many families and individuals across the region."
But the anti-congestion charge Greater Manchester Momentum Group said the new proposals were not enough. A spokesman said: "We will study these new documents in great detail but we are disappointed at such an insignificant response by AGMA to the flaws in what would be the world's largest congestion charge scheme.
"Even after these changes many parts of Greater Manchester would see little if any improvement to public transport services. AGMA has previously talked about assisting people on low incomes and it is disappointing to learn that what they meant was people on the minimum wage. How does this help tens of thousands on low to average pay?
"The discount sounds like a bureaucratic nightmare and adds to the overall costs of a scheme that already doesn't add up, making it harder to repay the £1.2bn of debt. This will either increase the charges or add to council tax."
The bid would see more than £2.75bn ploughed into transport schemes, including £318m to set up a peak hour, weekday-only congestion charge.
Some £1.2bn of the total would be in the form of a loan, paid back over 30 years out of profits from the charge.
Changes to the proposals are likely to be agreed by Greater Manchester's 10 councils at a crunch meeting on Friday.
They will also decide whether to accept the proposed leaflet - which explains the investment and the congestion charge - and the wording of the ballot for the referendum.
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AngusDangus (27/10/2008 at 08:34)
Professor Bob (27/10/2008 at 08:37)
Dave Sherwood, Irlam (27/10/2008 at 08:51)
S P In exile, Tameside (27/10/2008 at 08:56)
john berta (27/10/2008 at 09:07)
Capped fares,(bus companies agree) smart/oyster cards, business chrge halved.
No doubt there will be more concessions before the referendum.
You've fought a terrible misleading campaign from the start Peel & Co. It's now time for the residents of Gtr Manchester to vote TIF in and get a worldclass intergrated public transport network.
For business man and women out there who were against TIF.
£5 a day maximum. £25 per week. 40% back via tax = £10. Total payable per week = £15 or £3 per day or £780 per year. Minus savings on petrol nolonger wasted in traffic jams and more business time. Hey presto! Your actually making money and getting £3bill worth of public investment which will deliver a worldclass intergrated transport network.
It really is a no brainer isn't it. Come on you anti's, it really is time to change your minds and vote for TIF.
Rt Hon Dr Rev MC Spanner MP QC FCA FRICS JP OK (27/10/2008 at 09:11)
I think the news Transport users have been waiting for is that like Edinburgh, we would get all the money without the charge. We would get investment into roads as well as public transport. That a scheme which costs £318m to set up and 31m a year to run = £1.2bn over 30 years to pay back £1.2bn has been cancelled. That any shortfall in funding would be made up by City Centre Parking Levy's, Asset Sales, futrue fares, Business rate increases.
But No, we get a cap on bus fares and the largest charging scheme in the whole wide world. No wonder United City support it. Because in other cities, they would be contributing out of their future profits, not out of their workforces salary.
20% off for those on minimum wage. So if you earn £5.73 an hour for 35 hours, you will get 20% of the charge and bus fares. Big whoop - especially after you have paid the extra tax that disappeared under the 10% rate. And if you are on £6 an hour - Forget it. Your £210 per week is not worthy of a discount on the £25 you will be paying in charges.
PS did you notice that the YES adverts have changed tack slightly in the papers. They have gone back to -we won't pay the line till five new Metrolink lines are finished (The 5 lines which are being extended under 3a -The ones without a charge)
Chris Green, Chorlton-cum-Hardy (27/10/2008 at 09:22)
The decision to have so many loop holes in who pays for the charge is guaranteeing that there will be substantial fraud. Who will have to make up the short fall?
Who is going to pay for the fare capping? If the income from the congestion charge is reduced because of the change to a £5 maximum rather than £10 and there is going to be a significantly reduced income from bus/tram fares how does it all add up?
Are people really expected to prove that they are on the minimum wage every time they get on the bus?
Sick of this Government, MADchester (27/10/2008 at 09:24)
Not a chance this is going to happen......the Con Tax or the Capped fares!
Politicians/Councillors listen to the public; this ludicrous scheme is not wanted, never has been and never will. You WILL be looking for alternative employment if you decide to bring this in.
Be warned!
Jay B, oldham (27/10/2008 at 09:24)
we asked these questions months ago and they wouldnt answer them. then they go and come up with this with one month to go till the vote.
To top it all off now the government has been highlighted that its failed us in every aspect over the last 10 years of being in government on investment in public transport and trying to cut congestion.
this was investment they promised and failed to give us and now they expect us to pay for it twice.
Forget it!
They've failed us in nearly all aspects and need to be throw out of number 10.
Simon B, No Taxation without Representation (27/10/2008 at 09:25)
"proposals"
Nothing concrete, no signed contracts saying we will, or wont do this.
This is just smoke a mirrors to try and win Decembers referendum.
Growler (27/10/2008 at 09:30)
Kiwi-blue, Christchurch NZ (27/10/2008 at 09:52)
In the know (27/10/2008 at 09:55)
It seems to have slipped away!
Laura Norder, Didsbury (27/10/2008 at 10:04)
The moon on a stick wouldn't be enough for that lot...
Let's have the vote, silence the selfish, introspective 'anti-charge' faction and keep Manchester moving.
Sir Reginald Ringpull, A-u-L, Lancashire (27/10/2008 at 10:06)
Greater Manchester Pro Congestion Charger
Pentest 2, Hyde (27/10/2008 at 10:07)
Is this another of 2008's answer to Dr Beeching ...Dr Bernstien.
Never mind capping the fares of what would become yet another c##p service ...what we really need in a cap on the propsed 'CON'.
Scrap it.
Kev P, Manchester (27/10/2008 at 10:08)
Princess_Pam, Crumpsall (27/10/2008 at 10:10)
But the other con with fares is the fact that the bus cartels won't cross the city into each other's areas which means that instead of a through ticket it means two separate bus companies and two separate charges.
Public Transport (as well as the utilities) should be renationalised and provide the public service they are meant to.
dessie, manchester (27/10/2008 at 10:14)
and at what rate of increase when they do decide to up the cost of the fares!!
shouldnt there be a drop in fares as an incentive for people to ditch their cars?
Dave Dave (27/10/2008 at 10:17)
AlexisV (27/10/2008 at 10:17)
Not sure how they're going to pay the loan back if they bring the cap back to £5.
ebble, manchester (27/10/2008 at 10:18)
Just say NO.
Compo, Wythenshawe (27/10/2008 at 10:25)
baldfella, Beautiful Sunny North Manchester (27/10/2008 at 10:27)
£2530 to drive to work? I'd be better on the DOLE!!! - Paul Teeque (27/10/2008 at 10:27)
Throwing in some last minute bribery won't help.
The simple fact is 80%+ of people will work or shop elsewhere and it will kill manchester, - there is no way round this.
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