A TOP community leader has called for a major government inquiry into gang and gun culture.
Geoff Thompson, who founded the Youth Charter charity, demanded a Royal Commission probe into the spiralling rise of violence.
Mr Thompson was speaking at a Manchester town hall debate into guns and gangs being filmed for a TV documentary when he was asked what he would do to tackle the problem if he was prime minister.
Royal Commissions are launched to look into matters of great importance and controversy. They are often headed by retired senior judges and involve consultations with experts as well as the public.
In an emotional speech, Mr Thompson said: "It deserves it.
"It demands it. I do believe - dare I say it - that there is an aid culture. There are agencies trying to do things to communities… if we want to achieve cohesion and inclusion, we need to empower communities and trust communities."
He said a Royal Commission inquiry would help put the issue back in the hands of the people rather than in the hands of politicians alone. "This is not the prime minister's burden. This is a national burden," he said.
Earlier, Mr Thompson - a three-times world karate champion, who was awarded an MBE in 1995 for his contribution to sport - paused to gather himself when he became emotional as he reflected on the 2006 murder of 15-year-old Jessie James in Moss Side.
"It broke my heart," he said, explaining how he struggled to come to terms with how the murder happened at a youth centre supposed to symbolise a positive way out of their problems for youngsters in the area.
Channel 4 will broadcast the debate as part of a series filmed around Britain next month, called The Truth About Street Weapons. Mr Thompson spoke about his roots in Wolverhampton and how he channelled his energies into sport. He later was appointed to the Sports Council and also helped Manchester's bids for the Olympics and Commonwealth Games.
In 1994, he set up the Youth Charter for Sport, Culture and Arts, a charity he still chairs that helps prevent youngsters being sucked into crime and anti-social behaviour.
He insisted that work had been done to divert youngsters from gangs and used the example of Moss Side Amateur Reserves - a football team which included members of rival gangs that were encouraged to `kick lumps out of each other rather than kill each other'.
Mr Thompson said the lack of sports facilities was the `biggest single obstacle' in getting kids off the streets. "Sport is nowhere near playing its full part," he said.
He said his own journey into martial arts had opened up new and positive opportunities, but insisted professional sportsmen and women should not be seen as role models, but simply as athletes. "If we can employ these energies in the right way, they will find other channels."
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AH, Manchester (29/05/2008 at 10:21)
ace, manchester (29/05/2008 at 10:52)
PW, Manchester (29/05/2008 at 11:32)
Simplistic I know, but the majority will then end up sleeping safer in their beds. No one would be taking any choices away from these thugs as to whether they want to become a gangster or not.
You can initiate and continue with the social programmes at the same time. I wouldn't object to that. But on their own, they're not going to do much to ensure the safety of innocents.
Come-On-City. Manchester, formerly of Brooklyn. (29/05/2008 at 12:00)
A fantastic idea. What better way to show kids that shooting people is wrong by shooting people.
Think harder.
Geoff Thompson has it right. Better to stop kids getting into gangs in the first place.
Kids can earn £2000 a week just by selling drugs. Its going to be hard getting kids not to be tempted by this.
alvinlwh (29/05/2008 at 12:07)
jomov, Manchester (29/05/2008 at 12:16)
mylifeinthemafia (29/05/2008 at 12:20)
PW, Manchester (29/05/2008 at 12:47)
And while you're on about it, WHAT RIGHT HAS ANY THUG TO BE ON THE STREETS WITH A FIREARM? To play cowboys and indians? You're inferring they've got a right to do so. Get real man.
You make them understand in the only way they know first. Then you try to work on their minds. And as I said, when they're shot, they can't hurt anyone who's innocent.
Thank you for confirming my fears about this society. With your way of thinking, the place will end up as the proverbial Deadman's Gulch.
JimC (29/05/2008 at 13:13)
There are no real deterents in this soft country.
All the PC correctness from the government, these plastic gangsters want status and easy money. They have no respect for anyone and that includes themselves.
Move all of the decent living people out of Moss Side, build a wall around it and let them kill each other, they deserve no more.
SCUM.
Come-On-City. Manchester, formerly of Brooklyn. (29/05/2008 at 13:23)
Kids are already dying, they are already being shot or stabbed. You would think this would deter other kids...obviously not.
Why do you think if they are shot by the state it will make any difference?
jomov, Manchester (29/05/2008 at 13:40)
We need a deterant and even if shooting them is maybe a little extreme, it is far nearer to what we should have than what we currently have - NOTHING!
Come-On-City. Manchester, formerly of Brooklyn. (29/05/2008 at 13:40)
None and I never inferred that they did.
Antagonising people with guns, will only result in them shooting first and incidently more shootings. Its why police dont use force as much as you think they should.
You need to seperate what they deserve i.e. being shot, hanged, or whatever, with what will actually help.
There is no quick fix unfortunately.
Marc (29/05/2008 at 13:40)
PW, Manchester (29/05/2008 at 14:03)
They're actually carrying a gun with the intention to use it on someone. It's better to stop him in his tracks. You can't think about moral considerations, erring on the side of the thug in that situation. Whether he intends to kill another gangster is another kettle of fish.
"Drop it or you're dead!" What's unfair about that?
JimC (29/05/2008 at 14:24)
Leese's Parade [formerly Scrotnig] (29/05/2008 at 14:30)
That's correct. Manchester is the only crime ridden area in Manchester. It's the entire city.
Charles Light (29/05/2008 at 14:50)
alvinlwh (29/05/2008 at 15:16)
JimC (29/05/2008 at 15:32)
I did not say all gun crime, i said the majority.
Get it.
alvinlwh (29/05/2008 at 16:55)
Come-On-City. Manchester, formerly of Brooklyn. (29/05/2008 at 17:12)
Since you once said on this site;
'I dont care if there are more innocent people like Jean Charles De Menezes being shot as long as the majority are safe'
Im not gonna waste my time with you.
Come-On-City. Manchester, formerly of Brooklyn. (29/05/2008 at 17:20)
Who is them? Do people in gangs brazenly walk around showing that they have a gun in their hand? The chances that police could walk round spotting who has a gun and then shooting them is next to zero.
That is why I disagree with people like alvinlwh, who wet himself knowing the police got a new supergun, when it will never really be used.
The money spent on those guns, just to take one example, should have been spent on prevention projects just like Geoff Thompson has been doing to give kids in urban neighborhoods something that they are interested in and give them a purpose.
Come-On-City. Manchester, formerly of Brooklyn. (29/05/2008 at 17:46)
Come-On-City. Manchester, formerly of Brooklyn. (29/05/2008 at 19:31)
PW, Manchester (30/05/2008 at 09:09)
I'd sooner have a deterred thug than a dead thug. But I'd sooner have a dead thug than a dead innocent bystander or dead robbed victim.
I know gangsters don't go around blatantly exhibiting their weapons (although there are some thick enough to do it). I'm advocating an armed Police presence (plain-clothed if necessary) if gun crime is having an adverse effect on a neighbourhood. That would make life very difficult indeed for them. And social policies such as that of Mr Thompson should be applauded and continued.
The Americans haven't radically reduced violence in Iraq by any other means than fighting fire with fire. But that's another sad story in itself.