GORDON Brown was under huge pressure today after Labour suffered a hammering in the local elections.
Senior party figures admitted the prime minister's decision to axe the 10p income tax band had played a part as early analysis suggested Labour would win just 24 per cent of the vote nationwide.
That would be one of its worst results in recent history - behind the 27 per cent it gained last year and 26 per cent in 2004 during a backlash over the Iraq war. Results from 92 of 159 councils voting showed the Conservatives were up 125 seats, while Labour were down by 116. The Liberal Democrats were up eight.
In Greater Manchester, Labour lost 25 seats including that of Roger Jones, the councillor who championed the plan to introduce congestion charging. They lost Oldham to no overall control and took big hits in Salford and Wigan.
The Conservatives were celebrating after taking outright control of Bury, where party leader David Cameron is expected to join the celebrations later today.
Ed Miliband, a key lieutenant of Mr Brown, pictured, admitted the 10p tax issue had made the campaign `difficult'.
And Tony Lloyd, MP for Manchester Central and chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party, said: "It's not a good night."
Mr Lloyd said the electorate had sent a `very clear signal' to Labour in a `referendum on where the government stands'.
Health minister and Bury South MP Ivan Lewis said the party needed to `listen and learn'.
Asked if Labour needed to `relaunch', he said: "Of course you need to reassure people that you are on their side, of course you need to make it clear that you are the servants of the people and not their masters. You need to be absolutely clear about the mainstream majority's definition of fairness and standing up for hard-working families."
Majority
The Conservatives, who had set themselves a target of more than 40 per cent of the national vote, looked set to comfortably exceed that figure.
The BBC projected the results would give Mr Cameron a Commons majority of 138 if translated into a general election - with 394 seats against 169 for Labour. The Lib Dems would see their 63 seats reduced to 59.
Commenting on the early results, Mr Cameron said: "It looks like it's going very well."
Mr Cameron added later that Bury had been a `vital' council to win.
Tory chairwoman Caroline Spelman said the results showed `the country doesn't trust Gordon Brown'.
The Lib Dems also had a difficult night under the leadership of Nick Clegg in his first electoral test.
The party briefly lost control of Liverpool after a decade in power but appeared to have regained control when they announced the defection of independent councillor Nadia Stewart.
In Greater Manchester, the Lib Dems retained control of Rochdale and Stockport but failed to make significant inroads elsewhere.
But the party took heart after analysis suggested they had overtaken labour in terms of national vote share.
Chief executive Lord Rennard said: "In terms of our council seats, we are holding our own against the high base of 2004 and we are again the clear challengers to Labour in many of its former heartlands."
The result of the London mayoral election, likely to come down to a straight fight between Ken Livingstone and Boris Johnson, will not be known until this evening.
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Roger Jones's P45 (formerly MC Spanner) (02/05/2008 at 09:55)
"We need to listen", "It's the 10p thing" & It's against a background of rising economic concerns"
Listening - Labour seem to think that chucking a buzz word around will fool the electorate. I think the electorate said yesterday they don't give a monkeys uncle about listening. It's about doing. Not taking Casinos away. Not taking Bin Collections. Not Congestion Charging. Not Taxing the living daylights out of everything that moves. Not leaving immigration uncontrolled and unmonitored.
10p Tax - It's about hundreds of extra tax grabs from Council Tax to Fuel Tax. From Congestion Charging to National Insurance. From CGT to Pension Theft. AND the 10p. You can't keep taking from people purses without them noticing. Spend Less on Waste. Allow Workers to spend more of their own hard earned brass which will generate more tax in the longer term. It's basic economics.
Economic Concerns - Well let me think who was the Chancellor for the last ten years.
I fGordon doesn't realise that, it's going to be a long two years till the election
The Right to Reply (02/05/2008 at 10:11)
Come-On-City. Manchester, formerly of Brooklyn. (02/05/2008 at 10:21)
"General turnout looks like it will be about 35%, similar to last year"
Thats shameful.
Openshaw Bob (02/05/2008 at 10:24)
How do you know? I voted labour all my life but changed to another party this time. Why? None of the above. Main reasons are - don't like Gordon Brown, he hasn't been voted in as Prime Minister by the public, fed up of being taxed to the hilt, didn't like cash for honours, casino was taken away, etc etc.
These are my reasons yet Harriet Harman patronises me by saying it is due to credit crunch, 10p tax etc.
Timberman, MANCHESTER (02/05/2008 at 10:25)
HIP HIP HOORAH! (One for the censor)
ace, manchester (02/05/2008 at 10:52)
Leo B (02/05/2008 at 10:58)
Grolsch30, manchester (02/05/2008 at 10:59)
Totally agree with you.
Unfortunately I have come across many elderly people who I know who don't realy seem to grasp this!
I had a conversation with my wife, she asked her grandparents if they went out and voted, the answer was oh yes by postal vote.
Fair enough - they should vote.
But then... my wife asks them jokingly...so who did you vote for?
The reply was (which annoyed the hell out of me not because of who they voted for but the reason why they voted for them):
We voted labour because we always have done!!!!!
Now this really annoys me and I can imagine there are many many more people with this attitude like my neighbours.
I don't care if they vote Labour, Conservative, BNP or the monster raving loony party as long as there is some kind of thought and intelligence behind it.
But not because of " well we've always voted labour"
Don't get me wrong there will be enough people who say well we've always voted conservative/ liberal etc
You would'nt book a holiday to the same place again which turned out a holiday from hell again would you? or would you? because we always go there!!!
Rant over!
cheers
selfexiled (02/05/2008 at 11:00)
ace, manchester (02/05/2008 at 11:12)
Roger Jones's P45 (formerly MC Spanner) (02/05/2008 at 11:22)
If you are talking about MCC, you could burn peoples houses down wearing a red rosette, carash their cars shouting Labour forever and they would still vote Labour.
Still better that than the BNP....
Frostee, Oldham (02/05/2008 at 11:31)
They have gone the way of all party's that stay in power too long. The way some of their MP's strut about denying anything is wrong is simply amazing. Even when they have admitted the 10p error some of them are still following on about how they've made the lowest 30% of the poorest people better off. Of course the lowest 30% includes the scroungers and those on benefits who don't work. The other 70% of the poorest are the WORKING section that was hit hard.
Just one thought about Roger Jones - good riddance to another arrogant man who thought he could stamp on the ordinary motorist whilst exempting councillors (who would be able to claim back any congestion expense).
Come-On-City. Manchester, formerly of Brooklyn. (02/05/2008 at 11:33)
Voters can do what they want Ace. Your just mad because the sheep didnt follow your views.
ace, manchester (02/05/2008 at 11:53)
Ive met a lot of MCC type voters and they vote LAB not because of their manifesto but because their dad voted them for years..a joke.its like voting for somebody because they like their tie? hehehehe "voting sheep." I voted for conservative not because i like conservative,but because we dont have any other candidate in my area. its either the greens,con,lab.I would vote UKIP in the general election.....
ace, manchester (02/05/2008 at 11:56)
Youve got it in one (thats why we have voting sheep)? It amazes me why people still vote this lot back in?
David,North M/C (02/05/2008 at 12:00)
jomov, Manchester (02/05/2008 at 12:06)
ace, manchester (02/05/2008 at 12:11)
SPOT ON.
Come-On-City. Manchester, formerly of Brooklyn. (02/05/2008 at 12:19)
Conservative? BNP?
SR (02/05/2008 at 12:28)
I suspect there will be some celebrating outside local pubs tonight, shame about the 1400 or so that have closed due to another 'masterstroke' piece of legislation.
ace, manchester (02/05/2008 at 12:32)
Was the labour parties hearing aid switched off when the people wanted a "Referendum on europe"?or the offer to vote for a primeminister?.this lot are so full of themselves they think the voters dont matter..LET THIS BE A LESSON FOR OTHER PARTIES WHO THINK THEY CAN GET INTO POWER AND DO WHAT THEY WANT..
Roger Jones's P45 (formerly MC Spanner) (02/05/2008 at 12:32)
As David Cameron said, this is a very big moment. I AGREE WITH YOU. Mark the date down.
The sad thing about what Grolsch says is I know people who go to the same holiday every year becuase "they alway have".
C-O-C, Even you are probably right, these people who keep voting Labour are not necessarily sheep and they will have other issues. Looking at the wards they keep winning, it is likely to be about benefits. I'm not talking necessarily about undeserving people. Low paid workers until last month have benfitted from the Minumum Wage and Tax Credits. Why be a Turkey and vote for Christmas.
The issue for labour is above that line where people are genuinely struggling like never before, do not receive large benefits and have been taxed to buggery.
Labour haven't learnt a thing from last night becuase their politicians are going round saying "no crisis", "It was the 10p" etc rather than
"Maybe we should leave Congestion Charging", "Maybe there should be a Casino".
David Chaytor, MP for Bury North said last night there was no hostility on the doorstep. Ivan Lewis said "there has been no switch from Labour to the Conservatives, the Tories have managed to mobilise some abstainers". Well somebody kicked their sorry backsides out of Bury.
Drifter, Mancunia (02/05/2008 at 12:34)
Mike S, Manchester (02/05/2008 at 12:36)
It really does seem that people just continue to vote Labour despite everything "because it's what they've always done".
Probably the same people who support Manchester United, complain about the high prices for season tickets and the Champion's League final, but pay anyway, because they always have done...
Let's see what the Tories do in Bury and if they make an effort, let's give them a chance (much as it pains me to say it, but something has to be done!).
derick (02/05/2008 at 12:45)