ALMOST 1,000 police officers left Greater Manchester in the early hours today to join a demonstration in London over their `unfair' pay deal.
Just after 4.30am several of 18 coaches hired for the trip left from outside the Old Trafford football ground.
Scores more left from meeting points across Greater Manchester or travelled by train to meet with 38 coach-loads of officers from the West Midlands before travelling to the capital to meet with 17,800 colleagues from across the country.
The officers were there to march through the streets, hand petitions to the government and lobby MPs.
The event was organised by the Police Federation - the body which represents the interests of police officers. Members are furious that after agreeing to go to arbitration to negotiate a pay deal, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith refused to abide by the recommendation of a 2.5 per cent wage rise backdated to September.
While agreeing to the rise she said it would not be backdated reducing it in effect to 1.9 per cent, which means officers will lose out by an average of about £200 a year.
But Chris Burrows, chairman of the Greater Manchester Police Federation, says it isn't the £200 which has prompted the action, but the principle behind the government's refusal to abide by the arbitration process.
He said the decision by officers to march was not taken lightly. He said: "All the officers have taken time off work. Some have taken annual leave, some have come after a night shift.
"This is about the future of pay negotiations. We asked for more than 2.5 per cent but said we would be bound by the arbitration process. If the government had told us they had no intention of abiding by it, they would have saved a lot of time."
Mr Burrows, who joined a delegation of Federation reps who went to London yesterday to lobby MPs in advance of the march, said he had been given a positive response. He said: "The Lib Dems told us they don't agree with how we have been treated. Today we will be lobbying the Labour group, many of who have given us a very positive response."
Police are forbidden by law from taking industrial action. But officers are so angry about the pay dispute a ballot of Federation members is to be held in February to ask if they would like the right to strike. The situation has been aggravated by the fact police staff have been granted the full award and teachers were recently given a 2.45 per cent award.
One of those joining the protest is dog handler Neil Gilmore, 45, who has been in the police for 16 years. He said: "People have been killed and are injured on a daily basis doing their job to protect the people of this country. We deserve to be paid fairly for what we do."
As well as handing in petitions to Downing Street and the Home Office some officers stopped at the National Police Memorial to lay wreaths in memory of fallen colleagues.
The protesting officers have won the support of Rochdale's Lib Dem MP Paul Rowen.
He said: "The government's attitude is ridiculous when the money for the pay rise is budgeted for and sitting in Greater Manchester Police's bank account waiting to be spent.
Mr Rowen is planning to attend the rally along with the party leader Nick Clegg.
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Princess_Pam, Crumpsall (23/01/2008 at 12:44)
In recent years, policing, especially in Greater Manchester, has deteriorated sharply. Police don't even bother to investigate burglaries now and most minor crimes remain unsolved. Manchester has one of the worst crime clear-up rates in the country.
What we really need to do is to look at changing the structures of pay and having different types of Police forces.
For example, a National Police Force that can cross boundaries and deals with countrywide crime and deals with interpol. A County force which should be sub-divided into various types of squads dealing with issues such as burglary, violent crime, traffic, etc. And an ultra local force which could be as small as village, or electoral ward and this would be a visible presence and intelligence gathering.
But we also need to help by either scrapping a lot of the paperwork, or allowing officers to tape it and civilians to type it up with officers signing later so officers are on the street longer.
But the senior officer of any force should be up for election so that if they don't do their job of reducing crime, they can be voted out. The first job of a police officer is not to catch criminals, it's to stop the crime happening in the first place.
If police don't want to earn their pay, then they should get out of the job and let somebody else do so.
Chris, Irlam (23/01/2008 at 13:00)
TracyR, Manchester (23/01/2008 at 13:02)
I agree that the police no longer investigate smaller crimes, like stolen cars or assaults in the City Centre over the weekend, but I wouldn't be without them and I regret that this behaviour from the government, that is tantamount to breach of contract, will probably dissuade people from signing up.
In a digital age, electronic recording should be acceptable to save time and get officers back on the street.
Just give them their entitlement.
The Bobelesque (23/01/2008 at 13:03)
Enigma, Trafford (23/01/2008 at 13:22)
You should be a politician you know nothing about policing but are suddenley an expert, well done. What you are suggesting is a system like in Italy with so many different types of police that they do not know what each other are doing!
We already have a police force that is country wide and can cross borders, you watch too much TV.
The truth of the matter is that pay abd conditions for the police has been reduced by politicians that they are hamstrung by red tape and government targets.
Give the cops the pay they deserve and agreed upon before this snide goverment back tracked and take a step back and keep the politicians outof policing and let real police run it!
the beer baron (23/01/2008 at 13:34)
alvinlwh (23/01/2008 at 14:56)
reppick, salford (23/01/2008 at 14:58)
A few years ago we had 2 cars stolen from our driveway. One was a standard Ford Escort the other a limited edition foreign car. We phoned the Police who took details and gave us a crime reference for insurance use.
The next day we walked round to see if we could find the cars and found the escort on a busy main road where the Police must have passed it dozens of times.We live near a Police station. They never came to see us they never contacted us it is as if it never happened. We even had to ring them to say we had found the stolen escort. You do not forget. Still good luck to anybody fighting for a pay rise.
Bomber Harris, In Exile.West Germany (23/01/2008 at 15:23)
Pat McKee (23/01/2008 at 22:21)
The main thing here is that the Labour Party started the Edmund Davis Agreement before Margaret Thatcher came to power. This was because police officers with families were in receipt of income support. Margaret Thatcher ratified Edmund Davies and it has been upheld by every government since then.
What has happened here is when the Police Federation entered into pay negotiations last year with local government and couldn't reach an agreement before September the 1st. It was sent to binding independent arbitration. This meant that if the arbitration had set this pay award at 1.9% there would be no argument, they did not! They set it at 2.5%. This was done after a comprehensive examination of both sides representation, hence the delay in publishing the award. After this was done the Home Secretary normally ratifies the agreement.
What happened here was the Government did not say before arbitration, don't bother we are not going to pay it. It did its normal spin job an announced 4 months later the police have been given 2.5 percent. What we have here is the usual smoke and mirrors by this government. Again we have ministers and government officials lying to the public.
Another example of absolute power corrupting absolutely, watch how many of them vote to increase their own pay above this target.
As for the arguments, yes I would like to get on with being a copper, but the government with its stupid targets won’t let me. As for the serving soldier, been there done that got the life skills and moved on. Which is what you will probably do when they get fed up with being cannon fodder for this government!
What I'm going to do as a police officer is use the most powerful tool that I have, my vote and get rid of this government as soon as possible.
In the meantime I will still be there when your child goes missing, pick up the body parts after the bombings or the car crash, and remonstrate with the drunks in the high street on a Saturday night. Just remember I still have a wife home that would still like to see me come home, in one piece.
Paul B (23/01/2008 at 23:04)
Maybe if they got more cash for detecting more crimes, it would cause them to get off their butts and work for their wages, after all the job is a doddle really if you admit it!! Fair enough they are faced with compromising situations, but hey, guess what, you chose to do that job! Its like a bank clerk saying ' I want more pay incase we get robbed' when reality is, if you dont like the risk for the money you were prepared to do it for when you took the job on, then bog off somehere else!!
js5533, manchester (23/01/2008 at 23:35)
BluePolarBear, ex of Stockport (24/01/2008 at 00:12)
As for the excessive paperwork,I totally agree.All public services have been deluged with unnecessary changes,and mountains of targets and paperwork.I am a nurse in the nhs,and have come to the conclusion that there is a well paid,body of buereaucrats who reorganise public bodies merely to justify their fat salaries.But having admin staff doing admin work,helps frontline staff tremendously.
As for striking, I totally back the police here,it's a weapon of last resort,and I beleive that morale must be low if the police are considering such action.
If nurses,teachers and police officers went on strike then this government (which is pretty bad,but infinitely better than the heartless Thatcherites),would have to increase public sector pay by more than this latest award,which in real terms is a paycut.If this administration,had taxed the non domiciles from the start,had added an extra tax band to create a bigger take from the super-rich,had employed less london types, in focus groups and wasteful consultancies,and hadn't gone into the ludicrous Iraq war, then we would have a lot more spare cash,to give our public servants decent payrises.
Ex Bus Driver 118 118, Manchester (24/01/2008 at 12:29)
Enigma, Trafford (24/01/2008 at 18:29)