BUSINESSES in London have looked on in envy as Greater Manchester drew up its plans.
Dr Helen Hill, of the London Chamber of Commerce, said: "The Manchester scheme, as outlined, looks like a significant improvement on the unpopular and inflexible London congestion charge. Whereas the London scheme operates all day, the Manchester proposals include a six and a half hour charge-free window in the middle of the day."
The Road Haulage Association wants lorries to be excluded from any scheme.
A spokesman said: "It is designed to reduce congestion by demand managing motorists, so that they use the bus or train or drive at less congested periods.
"Lorries do not have these alternatives; they are not going to work, they are at work and therefore a charge on them would be simply a new journey tax - a charge on business."
Investment
Mark Threapleton, chairman of Greater Manchester Bus Operators Association and managing director of Stagecoach Manchester said: "What must be recognised is that the TIF bid is so much more than just the congestion charge. It's about massive investment in the public transport infrastructure of Greater Manchester."
Angie Robinson, Chief Executive of Greater Manchester Chamber of Commerce, said: "AGMA has made its decision and we now wait to see if the bid will be approved. We look forward to further consultation and there is still a lot of explanation that the business community requires."
But the Federation of Private Business's Campaigns Manager, Matt Hardman, said there would be no escaping the charge for many local companies.
"For many smaller firms the charge will be unavoidable, they can't put their goods and services on public transport, even if it is improved. Secondly, the times that they drive into and out of the zones are dictated by their customers, not by them."
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PW, Manchester (28/07/2007 at 08:24)
Malcolm Amer (28/07/2007 at 10:20)
60schild (28/07/2007 at 14:38)
Good lord you can just see him and the Stagecoach owners going Kerching as they dip their grubby hands into the public purse!!
This charming Manc (28/07/2007 at 15:47)
Are they envious of our public transport system?
How did they get a massive tube system that runs non stop all day that goes to all major destinations.And we get the joke that is the metrolink.It is always late,dirty,crowded and expensive. Why does'nt the government or the lottery or whoever it is who pays for all of Londons things pay for ours,then and only then when we have a good system in place should we bring in a charge.Is something being done in terms of a protest?
If so where and when?
Ron Silver (28/07/2007 at 15:51)
Chris, Irlam (28/07/2007 at 17:50)
I don't think so!
ace, manchester (28/07/2007 at 18:26)
ace, manchester (28/07/2007 at 18:49)
wkdboy1, Hyde (28/07/2007 at 21:37)
Sean, Manchester (28/07/2007 at 22:36)
Rob (Manchester Against Road Tolls) www.manchestertolltax.com, Denton (29/07/2007 at 09:41)
If you or indeed anybody want to join the fight against the con charge scheme then contact MART at manchester@notolls.org.uk
Our next meeting is on Saturday where we will be planning our next course of action.
Hopefully we will be able to get tricky dicky out of office and get someone sensible in.
nicky butt (29/07/2007 at 11:03)
Steve (30/07/2007 at 00:58)
Batfink, Manchester (30/07/2007 at 11:45)
Black Flag (30/07/2007 at 12:03)
rammylad, ramsbottom (30/07/2007 at 12:59)
Roger Jones has already held his hands up to say 'I do not have a plan B'.
Not having a plan B is no excuse for moving forward on a shoddy plan A. Let's get some intelligent people in power who know how to problem solve.
dessie, manchester (30/07/2007 at 13:09)
mancmonkey (31/07/2007 at 12:03)
It's a labour council who are bringing in the CON charge, who else do you think we should vote out!!
Black Flag (31/07/2007 at 12:41)
If you want to vote Labour out because of the congestion charge, feel free.
The point of my previous posting, which was obviously lost on you, is that if there are people, like Ace, who are unhappy about the buses being deregulated, it's a bit stupid to use that as a reason to vote against Labour when it was a Conservative policy that forced it on Greater Manchester in the first place.
rammylad, ramsbottom (31/07/2007 at 14:13)
paintman, Manchester (31/07/2007 at 14:25)
Black Flag (31/07/2007 at 15:14)
I believe the Transport Act does allow for the re-introduction of bus regulation (which, strangely, was never scrapped in London), but it is long overdue.
As for the congestion charge, personally I think it's a total mess. If a scheme is needed to both discourage car usage and increase investment in public transport, it would be far cheaper and easier to increase fuel duty and ring-fence the extra revenue so that each local authority gets the amount received at petrol stations within their boundary to invest in public transport.