How will c-charge affect you?

July 06, 2007

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C-CHARGE: Select the link (left) for an interactive map

MOTORISTS can now see how the congestion charge could affect them by logging onto the MEN's interactive map.

Details of the possible charging bands in Greater Manchester and also the tariffs suggested by transport chiefs can be found by clicking here for a full interactive map.

Users can follow their own route into work from home to see which of the proposed charging zones they will enter.

We will keep the map updated as plans for congestion charging are modified over the coming months.

gmfuturetransport.co.uk

What do you think? have your say.

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rammylad, ramsbottom (06/07/2007 at 08:19)

Thanks for the map, I can however say having looked at it that it will not affect me at all if it goes ahead. I did not pay my poll tax and I went to court over it and I will not pay this tax. I Look forward to my days in court, bring it on Roger.

Simon B, www.manchestertolltax.com (06/07/2007 at 08:48)

The second zone goes straight through the middle of Trafford Park.

Thats going to be popular, NOT.

How long before the companys there start to leavem and our jobs with them.

And half way down the M602

Manchester Against Road Tolls Website

www.manchestertolltax.com

Our petition

http://www.gopetition.com/online/12888.html

Graeme, Manchester (06/07/2007 at 08:53)

Where are the public transport improvements on this map? In order for people to see how this will affect them they need to see what public transport options will be on offer. These are at www.gmfuturetransport.com. And as far as I know the '3rd ring' is just a suggestion from one councillor - not a definite part of the plans.

Sean, Manchester (06/07/2007 at 09:10)

A detailed business cost model has to be submitted with the bid at the end of July. Why have those costs not been published? We are deliberately being kept in the dark by the authorities.

Is this mysterious 3rd ring included in the previously published £470 million capital cost? If so then why has the announcement of the 3rd ring been delayed?
If this 3rd ring is a quick fix compromise then how much will this add to capital and annual running costs?

The London scheme has made a grand total of £25 million in four years

Dave Sherwood, Hollins Green (06/07/2007 at 09:23)

So the congestion charge is designed to keep traffic down, then who is going to pay the huge loan.If they cannot get the revenue from cars then bus,train and tram fares will all shoot up as well as comminity charge,part of our community charge goes to transport, so if they cannot keep up the payments the that will go up.We are going to pay all ways.The area is too big and the hours too long.That is proof this is just a money making scam of Labour.

Forward with Frank (06/07/2007 at 09:38)

Let's all get rid of cars and go on buses as it is much greener. The article below proves this:

'PICCADILLY Gardens and its adjoining bus station have been named among Britain's worst air quality blackspots.

Readings have shown some of the highest concentrations of the sooty particles linked to asthma and other breathing problems'

For £1200 per year on congestion tax each we can all look forward to this air quality all over the city.

I'm just off to invest shares in an asthma inhaler manufacturer.

Andrew, Manchester (06/07/2007 at 10:25)

Painfull as it is to admit, the congestion zone will have to happen and of course will, as the government will force it through. It's this or gridlock. Even if we do have fantastic public transport, British people love their cars so much, they will have to be forced to the point they seriously consider the switch and congestion charging is the only way, unless you put a massive increase still further on the tax on fuel. Of course if you did this, to stop the risk of forecourt drive offs, you would have to introduce payment cards for the pumps.

paul teeque (06/07/2007 at 10:26)

It doesnt even matter if your heading into the town centre - just crossing one of the zones in surrounding areas and you'll pay :(

I live in Bredbury to visit Subway in Denton in the morning a 2 minutes drive i'd pay because i'd crossed the outer zone!

ace, manchester (06/07/2007 at 10:48)

Why not just rob everybody of ten quid a week ,because that is what you really want to do (stealth tax)Dont vote for this lot of theiving tax bandits.Mr browns ideas of tax everybody till they squeak. (Labour the working mans party)i dont think so....let manchester council pay for this out of all the profits that manchester airport is supposed to be making????????

PW, Manchester (06/07/2007 at 10:55)

I've had a look. They're just dressing up the fact that those who have to use their vehicles are going to fund those who don't. £1200 is too much. Don't let it get off the ground.

ruth davis (06/07/2007 at 11:07)

I hope that all of you who voted Loonie Labour are happy.Just wait this zone is already large and can only get larger and more expensive as time goes by,London charge has proved that.One, Ms Blears has just made a statement on democracy.There is no democracy here,we have no choice,they will not let us vote on the subject.Why Not if they are so confident the public want it.

had enough (06/07/2007 at 11:27)

Help, i don't understand, are we going to be charged for just using the M60 so say for instance you get on it at worsley and come off at stockport (as you have not actually gone towards Manchester)

Simon B, www.manchestertolltax.com (06/07/2007 at 11:41)

had enough

They can not charge you for using the M60.

YET.

If come off it and go onside the M60 by mistake, that will be 2 pounds mate.

and to get back on it, to leave the outer zone, that will be 1 pound mate.

The M60 goes right though the middle of some area, you will get a clear cut between inside and outside the zone.

example, that little mini mart less than a mile from your house you used to vist that, is now just inside the zone, it will go bust because its just inside the zone, the out of town supermarket will get your money instead.

Mike S, Manchester (06/07/2007 at 11:46)

There's only one thing for it, become a councillor and then you can claim it back under "expenses!". If they're all gunning for it, make them pledge to pay out of their own pockets and not claim it back!

The Catcher, In the Rye (06/07/2007 at 11:57)

I (again) recommend that everyone e-mails or writes to their councillors and asks them how they stand on the charge. That way they can't keep secret their shameful tow of the party line. You can get their details from the manchester.gov site. I have mailed all 3 of my local lads but only one has bothered to mail me back - asking me to prove I am one of his constituents!

Joey, Ashton under Lyne, (06/07/2007 at 12:08)

Would'nt it be nice instead of the disingenuous propaganda that they are putting out to have a detailed final doccument?

Simon B, www.manchestertolltax.com (06/07/2007 at 12:20)

Their number one tatic for getting the congestion charge through is to be a vauge as possible.

Reading an EU study done several years ago when they researched Congestion charges in several European cities.

One of the key recommendations of this report is that when trying to introduce and Congestion Charge, it is important to restrict the information being released to public as much as possible.

The reason is public opposition will increase the closer you get to the day of the charge.

AGMA/GMPTA and the GMPTE seem to be following this study in keeping the information deliberately vague.

Using it as blueprint, as it were.

To put it simply as possible, the lack of info is on purpose.

MART website

www.manchestertolltax.com

The MART petition

www.gopetition.com/online/12888.html

CJJ, Sportcity (06/07/2007 at 12:26)

I appear to be on the wrong side of the road regarding the second inner zone. Therefore, I will need to pay £2 per day, whereas someone on the opposite side of the street accessing the same road as me will have no charge. Is this fair?

Katie., Manchester (06/07/2007 at 12:28)

Simon said "The second zone goes straight through the middle of Trafford Park.

Thats going to be popular, NOT.

How long before the companys there start to leavem and our jobs with them."

And Simon, they are just building more and more business premises! No doubt more will be built on the old Carborundum site. And the public transport through the park is not exactly good either. It seems (and I have seen this before elsewhere) that they have bought in all these new (ish) people who need to make a good impression on their peers by coming up with idea's that will generate the most revenue. Well we have news for them it doesnt work.

Davidos, City Centre Manchester (06/07/2007 at 12:43)

So this charge is supposed to be to help reduce the congestion in Manchester. What about thoses of us who live in the city centre (encourages by a Labour Council). Will we have to pay to get out of town then back to where we live?

Simon B, www.manchestertolltax.com (06/07/2007 at 13:00)

Davidos

according to their bid website.

No mention of an exemption for city centre residents

www.gmfuturetransport.co.uk

www.gmfuturetransport.co.uk/faqs.php#proposal

But someone in one of the other news items someone was told by a councillor than there will be.

But these are the same people trying to sneak the third charging zone in, after they have done their yellow bus bus tour to gauge public opinion have been finished.

Simple question, do you trust these councillors to tell you the truth?

Dave (06/07/2007 at 13:02)

Davidos - presumably if you live in the city centre you won't be driving into town before 9.30, and won't be driving out of town 4-6.30...

Forward with Frank (06/07/2007 at 13:13)

Daividos, I too live in th city and am about to spend £500k on a new apartment.

When I first heard about the congestion tax I put the brakes on it. However, Marc Ramsbotton (councillor) told me that city vcentre residents don't have to pay. Now, anything can change with the clowns trying to run the city but that was as of four weeks ago.

I travel out of the city every day to go to work and I am not willing to pay £1200 for the privelage.

I also don't want more buses in my city either because apparently Piccadilly Gardens is the second worst place in the UK for air polloution, caused by... buses, which they want us to use.

If I suffer chest compalints due to more buses in the city I shall be seeing these clowns in court.

BlueSpeke (06/07/2007 at 13:16)

Simon B, where can I find the "EU study done several years ago" that you refer to?

Simon B, www.manchestertolltax.com (06/07/2007 at 13:45)

www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/roadpricing/feasibilitystudy/studyreport/annexdconsumerattitudesandbe3999

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