The public is overwhelmingly opposed to proposals for a bylaw which would ban cheap alcohol in Greater Manchester, according to an exclusive M.E.N. poll.
Council chiefs are gathering this morning to discuss the plan at a meeting of the Association of Greater Manchester Authorities.
However, more than three-quarters of people who took part in our online survey said they did not support council leaders’ plans to introduce a 50p-per-unit minimum price. The move would increase the price for a bottle of wine to at least £4.50 and a two-litre bottle of cider to £5.50.
But the proposals have been given the thumbs-down by M.E.N. readers, with 76.3 per cent declaring it a bad idea.And 48.7pc said they would travel to shops outside Greater Manchester to dodge the cheap-booze ban.
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There was also very little support for a nationwide minimum-alcohol price – with 71.9pc saying they were against that, too.
Experts have been exploring the details of a minimum-pricing by-law for the Association of Greater Manchester Authorities (AGMA), whose 10 council leaders were meeting today to discuss the plans. You can follow live coverage of the meeting in our player here:
They hope to trigger a national ban on cheap booze and help cut the £2.7bn a year cost to the NHS of alcohol-related harm.
Greater Manchester has some of the highest levels of alcohol-related illness in Britain.
Our survey has been running all week as part of a spotlight on binge boozing in the region. We found readers DID accept that alcohol put a real strain on the NHS – and on the police.
Some 60.3pc agreed or strongly agreed that binge-drinking was a serious problem in the region.
And 30.2pc said a family member or close friend had been a victim of alcohol-fuelled violence. Nearly a quarter of readers (23.5pc) acknowledged that a 50p minimum price would make people drink less.
But there was still resistance to the idea of councillors and MPs setting rules – with 63pc strongly agreeing with the statement that ‘politicians have no place telling us how much we should pay for alcohol’.
The survey also provided an insight into the region’s drinking habits.
Nearly a quarter of households spend over £25 a week on alcohol, with 41.6pc of men admitting to drinking more than the recommended weekly limit of 21 units.
Of all respondents, 5.1pc admitted to drinking more than 40 units in an average week – equivalent to around 20 pints or 26 small glasses of wine.
Just over 10 pc said they never drank – with twice as many women as men declaring themselves teetotal – and 6.8pc said they drank every day.
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Pricing is a side issue. Politicians will not have the courage to take on their paymasters and return alcohol back to solely the pub and the offy. The big supermarkets are the suppliers. The wine areas are bigger than a football pitch.
notice thay started this in the north and not in the tory populated south....
Will the MEN stop harping on about it now then?
I wonder how much notice will be taken of what the people want.
Ridiculous and unworkable. Without doubt alcohol misuse is a blight on society, but this isn't the way to deal with it.
Your picture does not represent the situation with the over-whelming number of people either. I don't mean it shouldn't be addressed, but education and individual restraint is the answer. Addicts pay ridiculous sums for their drugs, and £20 notes are just drug vouchers to them. Increasing the price of alcohol to 50p a hit isn't going to deter alcohol addicts, and will just penalise ordinary people. Time to stand up and say no!
Was in a shop the other dasy and 2l of cider was about £1.50. I believe this would increase to about a fiver. Who would get the revenue? Would we see this offset in other tax reductions? No.
This is just another was of increasing tax behind a smokescreen, absolute joke. Anyway i thought it illegal as price fixing??
I can see why people don't want to pay more for alcohol, but have they any other ideas to fix the problem?
A lot of the supermarkets sell booze cheap and even at a loss, just to get you in the stores!
Something needs to be done to stop our drinking culture, which would reduce anti-social behaviour and reduce stress on the NHS and Police.
No matter what the polls say the Lonney Labour who run Manchester councils will still push for it.These people think because they have a position of power they can tell us how to live.There is much more can be done,for example raise the age and regulate selling times.
And a similar proportion were against the Toll Tax....something else the MEN supported.
Ever get the feeling sitting in your cosy offices may be making you a little out-of-touch with the general population?
Stop preaching & stick to reporting the news instead.
Charge all drunks who require ambulances and medical treatment because they are out of their heads and leave the rest of us who are sensible drinkers alone.
Yet again, Big Brother at it's best. When are we going to stop treating people like children? Bringing in this bylaw will push people to buy cheap booze from abroad and a black market will ensue. Organised criminals will sell cheap booze to the vulnerable, like drugs, they know some people are alchoholic and they will prey on these people.
The general public are often punished because of a few people who cannot control or handle alchohol.
Stop this nanny state mentallity and throw this proposal out. Also what happened to free enterprise. Do you think the likes of Sainsbury's, Tesco, Morrisons and Asda will take this lying down, I don't think so. Forcing these large supermarkets to increase their costs because of a few weak individuals will not be easy and could cost the local authorities thousands in court costs fighting litigation.
The last Government killed off hundreds of pubs due to the smoking ban, they forced people to drink at home instead of in pubs. People will look for cheaper alternatives outside the borough, this will impact on smaller shops and the large supermarkets alike and will take trade away from them and income in the borough will decrease. This will force, like the pubs some shops to close.
Bad idea.
And how many of those people who were part of this pole are unemployed lay about who spend all there time drinking and sponging off the state?
Now there the results I want to see
If you go up to the nearest drunk and ask how much it cost to get that way 75% would not know and the other 25% would tell you to "go away" (euphemism )
I might have got the figures reversed - That's what the demon drink does to you.
REALLY??? I am shocked!!!! Honest!
Apparently they same people who opposed this bylaw were also against paying more tax to help pay the goverment the money back for bailing out the banks???? Are these people mad??
Instead of just trying to price drinkers out of the game why don't they just restrict the number of units that can be purchased per person in the same way that only two packs of paracetamol can be bought at a time? Yes you can get round it by doing a tour of various stores but a lot of youngsters who don't own cars wouldn't bother.
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Poll: Public overwhelmingly opposed to cheal alcohol ban in Greater Manchester
What's Cheal?
Can we now have several weeks of reporting/stories on how the people of Gr. Manchester do not want this proposal...or as I prefer to call it,'balanced reporting'.
Setting a minimum price for any goods is not legal, so I am not sure how this would work.
The bigger problem is that this would create a black market for cheap alcohol to which the kids will turn. Selling god know what in it, do we really want this. The sale of alcohol needs to be regulated more but increasing the price is not the answer.
cheal alcohol ???? I've noticed a lot of spelling mistakes on the MEN website lately.
The poll and all of the comments about this price fixing are about the unwanted control of our lives by the council.
It's just a step to far and some of the control freaks in the AGMA and their respective councils should remember that we have the right to choose how we live our lives.
What next is the big question! If they are allowed to impose this it opens the flood gates for more petty minded by-laws and regulatory actions by these local councils.
Again I will say that the main reason for this being proposed is that it is being driven by Labour councillors who were voted in by the majority of greater manchester residents.
YOU ONLY HAVE YOURSELVES TO BLAME!
a strange bunch of people comment on here. the govt increases university fees by thousands of pounds and students are villified and denigrated by the commentators here but they become very passionate about having to pay a few extra pence for their tipple. cheaper education will make this a better country to live in whilst cheap alcohol has blighted us for years.
If cheap beer and spirits were abolished from supermarkets it would not stop the majority of people from drinking before they hit the pubs and clubs, which causes the violent and drunken behavior our emergency services have to deal with. The answer is to charge them the full cost of their visit to the police station or hospital, this to include call out charge, time at the incident,transport and hospitality at the chosen venue and administration costs, this could be in excess of £1000 a visit, a REAL incentive to behave. This would enable the millions like myself who do not abuse alcohol to be able to take advantage of cheap offers when available.
P. Marlor Droylsden.
Let's have a referendum on it !
Perhaps everyone over 18 should automatically get a license to buy alcohol, like a driving license. Just a little credit card type thing. Anyone who is charged or cautioned by policed ove a drink related offence would get their license revoked for a period depending on the severity of the offence. Likewise if someone is admitted to hospital for treatment resulting from a drinking related misdemeanour they would fofeit their license. Vendors could reserve the right not to sell someone alcohol of they can't produce their license.