Two Greater Manchester hospital trusts have death rates that are higher than expected, a new study has shown.
The Dr Foster Guide found that Royal Bolton Hospital and Pennine Acute Hospitals were two of 19 NHS trusts in England where death rates were alarmingly high last year. It added figures at both have been high for the last six years.
Pennine Acute runs Rochdale Infirmary, Fairfield, Royal Oldham and North Manchester General hospitals.
The findings are intended to act as a "smoke alarm" for where problems with care might exist.
Nationally, hospitals recorded 62,800 adverse medical events, with 30,500 patients developing avoidable blood clots, more than 13,000 mothers suffering obstetric tears during childbirth, nearly 10,000 accidental lacerations or puncture, about 6,000 patients with pressure sores, more than 2,000 post-operative haemorrhages and 1,300 cases of post-operative blood poisoning.
Trusts across the country also reported 56 incidents of "wrong site" surgery and 150 "foreign objects" left inside patients after an operation.
Researchers said many trusts were not accurately recording incidents of harm to patients, making it harder to prevent similar occurrences in the future.
Roger Taylor, director of research at Dr Foster said: "It is concerning that no hospital in the country can accurately assess the level of adverse events compared with the best achievable rates.
"Blood clots kill more people than superbugs every year - and yet the reporting of blood clots is just not always sufficient to identify and address the problem.
"Dr Foster is asking the Department of Health to review the way this information is recorded and we hope to revisit this topic next year and be able to identify trusts and their rates."
The risk of patients developing a blood clot is increased by most surgical and some medical treatments and conditions. But hospitals can take measures to reduce the risk.
The researchers found clots varied widely between trusts, with the highest rates over 3.5 times greater than the lowest.
The guide found 19 of the 147 hospital trusts in England had mortality rates which were significantly higher than expected, down from 27 last year, while 26 trusts have mortality rates that are significantly low, down from 32 a year ago.
The deaths after surgery, or "failure to rescue", looked at patients who had a secondary diagnosis such as internal bleeding, pneumonia or a blood clot, and later died.
In many cases patients will have developed the condition as a result of surgery.
In good news, the number of England's 147 trusts reported to have high hospital standardised mortality rates (HSMRs) fell from 27 to 19, with the gaps between hospitals with the highest and lowest rates narrowing.
The number of people dying in hospital fell by 7% between 2008-09 and 2009-10 and the reporting of errors seems to have improved.
Health Secretary Andrew Lansley welcomed the report, saying: "I have been clear that unsafe care will not be tolerated. Patients have a right to expect the very best care from the NHS and when something goes wrong, hospitals have a duty to report it and make sure that others can learn from their mistake.
"We have already taken action to improve safety and openness in the NHS - publishing more information and statistics for all to see, extending the list of mistakes the NHS will not be paid for and strengthening rights for whistleblowers."
Nigel Edwards, acting chief executive of the NHS Confederation, said: "The concerns Dr Foster raises over the way information is recorded and interpreted in the health service are very important.
"If we are going to manage and measure our health service using data on the outcomes of procedures and the success of treatments then we need to ensure that the collection of usable data is a priority and embedded in the culture of the health service."
Patients Association chief executive Katherine Murphy said: "Safety is still clearly not the top priority of every NHS organisation and it absolutely should be.
"We cannot continue with a situation where patients are stuck with poor healthcare because of where they live."
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The message is, DO NOT think about going to these hospitals until they improve their rates of care and treatment. Fire useless doctors and surgeons, and name and shame them. Increase the salaries for excellent docors, and fire useless nurses and health care assistants.
How you can predict how and when people die I dont know.
Barmy, stats stats stats. Concentrate on saving lives instead of figure crunching please.
Things will only get worse when Rochdale infirmary is shut down, due to the extra time & distance patients will have to go BUT at least Pennine acute will have saved some money............The bosses must have no conscience to go with their lack of morals & sense !!! Who elects these people ?? NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!! So we can't get rid of them.
ANOTHER WAY TO JUSTIFY TORY CUT TO THE NHS. WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR there will be a deafening SILENCE about the figures then
Is this increasing phenomena statistically? Or a demonstration of poor after care from nursing. I don't think funding is the problem here, as Nulabor have pumped in big time during their tenure. Is there any notable difference within the private health care?
So Bolton is deemed unsafe for the patients it already has yet the experts deem it the right place to move one of the regional neonatal unit to?? Poor babies and their mothers dont stand a chance.
Pennine accute ,do not come well out of this ,or indeed any other survey.You wanna kill people over 60 admit them to one of their 5 Hospitals,because chances are they very well may not come out of there,to live and tell the tale.
Under the EU can I please apply to have ANY treatment done in either Holland or Germany? Their treatment /non infection rates/and survival rates are so much better than ours.We start to look like a third world state compared to others .Why? answers on a postcard to this site please
Ridiculous u go to hospital to get better and end up leavin in a wooden box....(Which is excacly what happened to my mum a few yrs bk).....Bring bk matrons
I find it disinformative that the Foster guide on Statistics doesn't take into account the average life expectancy for the area. If taking an area like Bolton which has a lower than normal life expectancy for the UK, you would expect to see a relationship with the number of patients who die in the local hospital. The tables state how many die against a standard of health for the UK and are not normalised for the health of the area. The old addage, Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics