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Andrew Grimes: Why do William and Harry have to go to the frontline as brothers in arms?

Prince Harry is to return to the front line in Afghanistan to shoot at the Taleban from an Apache attack helicopter. He will be armed with a clutch of Hellfire missiles and a 30mm chain gun. He will also tote a loaded side pistol on the offchance of his being obliged to make an unscheduled landing amid the enemy.

At the same time, his brother William (the second in line to the throne), newly returned from the Falklands, will continue his career as a search and rescue RAF officer. It is not impossible that the two royal heirs will be in action against the Taleban at the same time, though Harry is in the Army Air Corps, not the RAF.

The princes’ courage, and their determination to take the same chances as their fellow servicemen, does them great personal credit. But should they be allowed, especially jointly, to perform such perilous service?

Two or three years ago, when Gordon Brown was still prime minister, the answer was an adamant No. The head of the armed services, at the behest of the then defence secretary, ruled that it would not be in the forces’ or the country’s interests to put one royal prince, let alone two, in an Afghan battle zone.

Instantly, the prince’s unit would become a specific target of the enemy. Battalions of tribesman would vie in vehemence and fury to be the first to reach and annihilate it. And suppose one of the princelings were captured? Instantly, the elected government of the United Kingdom would become a focus of international blackmail. Quit the war. Or take delivery of His Royal Highness’s head. All the hills of Afghanistan would resound to the sound of this triumphant and bloody haggle.

Such were the military arguments put a year or two ago, and they seem to me unchallengeable. But there are political objections, equally strong, against the royal brothers jostling for medals in this war.

If they were participating in a war to defend the survival of this country there might be a morale-raising point to it. But the conflict in Afghanistan enjoys no national consensus. Very many people – including military top brass who must perforce whisper their criticisms from behind cuffed palms – consider the Afghan expedition a gross and wasteful mistake that eventually will lead to a humiliating British withdrawal and a restoration of the vicious rule of the Taleban.

No European power has ever prevailed for long in Afghanistan. Could it ever be right to involve two heirs to the throne in yet another Afghani cock-up wrought by self-aggrandising political dimwits? Could it not shake the Crown? Historically, William and Harry are conscripted by an old precedent. Princes of the realm, and their multitudinous cousins, have nearly always gone straight into the forces as a matter of course.

This is because they often need, on official inspection duties, to clank with military gongs, whether they have earned them or not; to denote that they are, at least totemically, in charge of something.

Twenty years or so ago Edward, the Queen’s youngest son, was shoved in the Marines, but showing no stomach for that life, resigned his commission to work backstage in a theatre. Some tabloids jeered at him for his unmartial squeamishness, but why should the accident of royal birth make a military career the only available one? There are other professions.

Is it not time we saw a scion of the Windsors training as a teacher, a doctor, a clergyman, a florist, a publican or even a barman?

But does every princeling, or princeling’s cousin, have to take up arms, whether he wants to or not? The decision to let William and Harry serve, admittedly with genuine enthusiasm, as combat officers (incidentally why couldn’t they have joined, if only as a gestural start, the non-commissioned ranks?) was probably taken as a glamorous obeisance to equality for the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee year.

But the monarchy is an hereditary institution. It cannot embrace equality – or indeed popular democracy. Its members are born to command, if in modern times it is only nominal command.

As Alan Bennett noted in his The Madness of George III, kings and princelings are expected to wave from balconies at toothless yokel throngs decked out in flags. That is what they are for. If they really now want to democratise their act, they will have to join a political party and hope for the best in a republican election.

I, personally, believe it would be better for the country if they stayed, in splendid neutrality, as they are. It seems to be my duty to advise Her Majesty to keep her grandsons out of dodgy oriental wars. That task should fall to the prime minister, but if Dave won’t do it, someone else has to.

A motorbike for the mayor . . .

IN spite of making £2m cuts that will close schools and libraries, Scarborough town council will let its present mayor, John Blackburn, cruise around in the official Mercedes Benz and retain on the payroll its £20,000-a- year chauffeur.

The council argues that if His Worship were allowed to drive himself he would be at high risk of having his mayoral chain wrenched from his neck by determined thieves. The chain is worth £30,000. I tend to agree with the local Taxpayers’ Alliance. They say the council is extravagantly out of touch. It would surely cost the seaside taxpayers a lot less if someone lent the mayor a bike – though, in keeping with his dignity and his determination to thwart chain-snatching gangs, it would have to be a motorised one, with a padlocked sidecar for the mayoress.

Bingo and ring-o?

THE COSMO bingo parlour in Stalybridge is seeking a licence to hold wedding ceremonies within sight and sound of its numbers’ shouter. Clicketty click. Two fat ladies. Was she worth it? Till death do us part.

What fitter place could there be for a nuptial? Every marriage is a gamble, few offering a painless, alimony-free escape route by courtesy of a lottery jackpot.

Some Church of England parsons are tut-tutting at this impious new competition from a bingo hall. But nobody should take the slightest notice of them.

These reverends are planning to put up the cost of church weddings from £296 to £415.

And that doesn’t include a whacking fee for the organist and his yellowing second hand hymn sheets.

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At least sending our princes to war is safer than asking them to ride a bike around the city, according to Andrew Grimes in a previous opinion piece!

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So, Mr G, organists get a 'whacking fee' - the Church of England really is embracing all forms of 'lurv' practices, eh?

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Why simple reason is that they chose those positions William as a SAR pilot and Harry as AAC pilot. As for combat in the near future well how about questioning the Blair/Brown Regime. Or has the length of the current conflict got a bit confusing and our commitments to the Falklands. Would you miss Harry or even shed a tear if he was injured. Or is it simply they are doing their duty.

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As serving members of HM Armed Forces, Princes William and Harry are under orders to serve in whatever area of the world their senior officers require them to. Failure to do so renders them liable to court-martial. If every squaddie, pilot or driver in Afghanistan was told, 'you don't have to be here' there'd be no-one left there within a week.

Also, I am certain that if William and Harry no longer wished to serve, citing 'duties of State', they would be allowed to resign their commisions, as their uncle Edward did. The fact that they so far haven't wanted to resign says to me that they want to be in the Armed Forces and are proud to be so.

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They don't have to, they could wuss out like Edward did. On the other hand, politician's offspring should be forced to go to the frontline once old enough. They put our troops in these countries for pointless wars, they should put their money where their mouths are.

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Regarding Prince Edward's resignation from the army: Millions of people lost their lives in WW1 (on both sides) to keep the European royal family (all descended from, or related to Victoria) in the privilaged position they are in and if they cannot at least provide some leadership, then what's the use of having them.

If it was up to me, the queen would be the equivilent of a president and that's it, the rest can go out and get a job, never mind living off our taxes because their anscestors stole the land.

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WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i think its wrong the princes going , they should be symbols of peace and non violence a kind of example to us lesser mortals , i think the firm are playing it all wrong .

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The majority of the posters on here are totally missing the point. No one doubts their courage and commitment and no doubt they want to go. Yet that has to be tempered with the thought metioned in the article. All the others out there are targets because they're servicemen and women and that's surely hard enough but to be a member of the British Royal family and a serviceman in a war zone is something else altogether - prime targets, whick makes their colleagues job all the more dangerous. Someone asked if we would shed a tear if anything happened to Harry? Well, what a vile, disgusting comment. I would hope that everyone would shed a tear for any service personnel lost. It will do this country no good whatsover to lose either William or Harry or any other serviceman or woman for that matter but the impact of losing a direct heir to the throne is unthinkable.

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If my son wanted to go and fight the taliban, believe me, I would only let him if he had an Apache strapped to his back. Call me over protective, but I have endless respect for the lads and lasses taking the fight to the enemy.

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I'd bet my right arm that both princes actually want to be in the military, not for the great publicity, not for politics, not to set an example to the rest of society, but to be around people with 1st class enthusiasm, with 1st class senses of humour, and generally be with people who don't kiss their backsides all the time, who are straight down the line with them. I'd imagine that both of them with such a prominent positions in the world feel more free in the military than they ever have in their entire lives.

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The pair of them are hardly ever on duty, but attending cricket and 'rugger' games and other social activities.

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Great Britain's government might not get us involved in other people's pointless wars and military adventures at the drop of Uncle Sam's hat if the Prima Donna Minister, other members of the cabinet and the ruling party's back benchers were all required to take up arms and join the troops out there on the front line.

Best wishes to the Princes if they are doing what they want to do in the services.

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they should be the frontline its HM war not ours

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Why get married in a church and then complain of the cost?
Surely thats the main part of your wedding otherwise you would go to the registrar office?
£400 is a lot less than the Limo, the Cake and the receptoin venue, not to mention the dress, its a case of priorities and if a church wedding is your priority then pay for it!

Im not interested in what the Royals do, its not news, there are far more important things going on.

As for the Mayors Driver, you suggest throwing someone out of a perfectly good job.
I dont think a Mayor can be expected to attend functions often working late at such functions and then drive him/herself home in a clapped out banger.
I think the MEN could save quite a bit by getting rid of some antagonistic journalists.

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its a bit like modern day "grouse shooting" except instead of a 12 bore shot gun its an apache helicopter .

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