Four asian men attack two women wearing burkas in the street? whats the real story going on here?

Haha classic! Another lot of asian fools (from up north- AS USUAL) who have lost the plot! I love this site because it lets us southerners know how sad northern asians are! I hope tomorows headlines are just as funny lol

how sad,4 men assaulting a vunrable women,typical this would never be something pakistanis and bangladeshis would do.

Evil disgraceful men! women beaters. Just shows how low life these men are attacking these women. I Can imagine how they treat they mother, and sisters. Look at the twisted nutters. Thinking they big when they all weak. The sentences given are a disgrace these animals should be locked up with the key thrown away

That's a sickening attack on 2 women. These men bring shame to all men and should be locked up for a long time for their barbaric attack!! I can't believe they are all mature men yet they acted like school kids and their yobbish behaviour should be punished severely. I can't imagine each of these men would have liked it had it been their mother, sister, wife attacked instead?!

Also for Asian.Sensation to say this only happens in Northern England, well think again and look at the facts before you submit your silly comments on here!! Its not a laughing matter, those poor women could have been seriously injured in the attack so stop laughing and show some emotion!!

errr this is absolutely horrible. I cannot believe these man are such imbeciles. How DARE they attack 2 lonely women on the street. There must have been 20 guys at least. And is that an old man i see hitting them as well. I am absolutely shocked and as a muslim myself i cannot believe that muslim brothers are hitting their own sisters. The punishment is atrocious. Community service that is petty punishment.

Asian Sensation the feeling is mutual, keep up the good work there

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8369204.stm

When has it become OK to hit women in public in this country? It used to be something cowards did to there wives behind closed doors, there must be something very inthe lives of these men that thay had no shame about doing this in public, one of the first things you learn in the playground at school and at home inthis country is not to hit girls,thay must have missed that lesson, its a shame we dont have some photo of these men isnt it? So we can see there brave faces!

Am sure there is a story behind this attack as to why they cowardly men attacked these 2 women but still it gives them no excuse to attack women! Am appalled at their sentences though - they should have all been jailed for a minimum of 5 years! Only then they will think twice before attacking women.

There are several people have commented there must have been a reason for the attack on these women, well aint that just typical, its a very subtle way of trying to blame the women for what happened. And the guy who claims to have witnessed this shocking incident and saw 14 men of all ages hitting defenceless women, THIS IS TWENTYFIRST CENTURY BRITAIN this is not afganistan or somalia or Iran. What next? Beheadings? Floggings? This is exactly the type of thing that happens under sharia law and thank goodness we dont have that!

I think the courts have had to consider cultural differences; wouldn't this give the message that this type of behaviour is acceptable if you are of a certain religious persuasion?

Brock, Hulme, I for one posted something along the lines of "there must be something else going on". What I mean is I suspect there is some pathetic tribal feud happening, or a village argument over a goat, or some other offence against these good honest brave men. Lets get the full details and hear what these women's crimes actually are that justify these sad little boys to behave in such a remedial fashion. Maybe she spoke to a man? tut tut...

Ray stay, I agree with you to a point, im sure its very likely to be over a simple domestic dispute such as a divorce, its a huge insult for a woman to ask for one and its often disputes like this that can lead to violance, the only suprise was that it was done in public, note that it was just men doing the attacking and the arrogance of doing in in the middle of the street, it go's against the grain of any right minded person, there sentances compleatly send out the wrong message aswell, thay should have been given at least twelve months and dont get me started on the cultural excuse.

Oh dear me, whether there is a story behind this abhorrent incident or not, the point is two women were attacked by cowards who in order to escape incarceration said they regretted the incidence wholly and were let off with a slap on the wrist. Shame on you and the Judge for this pathetic sentence!

MarxPace & Inamul- regardless of their culture or the religion they follow or to which country they belong, they are nutters and need to be taken off the streets. Im sure (unfortunately) there are people just like them in every society in every country. Ray Stay, give it a rest with the sarcastic remarks.

Asian sensation- what, are you like, 5? there is no need to show off with your ridiculous remarks especially since you are just a name sat behind a computer! Grow up!

Brock you seem to know so much about shariah law, you must work for their council. First of all, WHAT HAS SHARIAH LAW GOT TO DO WITH THIS ARTICLE? Lets get one thing clear here, shariah means God's Law which is not only used by muslims to resolve issues but also Christians and Jews. (Jews and Christians have their own set of rules they abide by which they consider sacred.) As soon as someone hears the word 'shariah' their hearts fill with terror and its automatically associated with crazy muslims and terrorists! Whereas in actual fact they are laws that deal with day to day life such as banking, business, divorce, politics, family, hygiene and social issues etc. Nobody is asking for shariah law to be introduced into this country or for the islamifisation of Europe.. shariah are just laws for muslims to abide by not non-muslims so basically it doesnt apply to you!

Islam preaches freedom of faith . Nobody is obliged to accept Islam : “There is no compulsion in religion…” (Al Quran 2:256) . Not only does Islam state freedom of faith , it also rebukes those who oblige people to embrace Islam . The Quran says : "And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed - all of them entirely. Then, would you compel the people in order that they become believers? "[Al-Quran 10:99] Not Only does Islam preach freedom of religion , but it also forbids Muslims from speaking ill of the deities worshipped by people of other faiths so that they do not speak ill of Allah. Such a scenario is against human dignity of both sides and would lead to mutual rejection and hatred . “Do not revile those whom they call upon besides God, lest they revile God out of spite in their ignorance. Thus, We have made alluring to each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord and He shall then tell them the truth of what they did.” (Quran 6:108)

I've said time and time again women have a higher status than men in Islam but a few individuals seem to twist hadiths & ayahs to suit their own needs. Did you know there is a whole chapter on the Quran about women and their rights- have a look at Chapter 4 Surah Al-Nisa.
Some examples of womens rights are below:
1.The right and duty to obtain education.
2. The right to have their own independent property.
3. The right to work to earn money if they need it or want it.
4. Equality of reward for equal deeds.
5. The right to express their opinion and be heard.
6. The right to provisions from the husband for all her needs and more.
7. The right to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.
8. The right to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply can't stand him. (pls note that divorce is the most disliked of the permissable acts but is a solution to an unhappy marriage)
9. The right to keep all her own money (she is not responsible to maintain any relations).
10. The right to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.
11. custody of their children after divorce.
12. to refuse any marriage that does not please them
and the list goes on and on...

Which other holy book has given a woman her utmost rights? we should all respect each others religions whether we agree with the teachings or not. You need to stop being so judgemental about other people's faith because that makes you nearly as bad as those who incite hatred towards non-muslims. Islam teaches that all mankind are equal, our beloved Prophet said 'O people, Remember that your Lord is One. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a black has no superiority over white, nor a white has any superiority over black, except by piety and good action (Taqwa).''

Also the Quran says that we're all created of a single soul " Oh humanity , be conscious of your Lord , who created you of a single soul " [4:1) So we should all come together rather than attack each other. Remove your deep-set misconceptions and you will remove huge a barrier thats what i say!

Peace out everyone.....

And Brock, Hulme, we have 85 Sharia courts in the UK, mediation court loop hole exploited. Research it..

Brock, When did this become a debate about Sharia law? and who has been beheaded? what has Iran have to do with this story? You are way off radar mate

Sandy p, all you points are true im sure, but thay are not the reality thay are not how people live there lives, islam may well hold hold women higher then men, dont tell that to me tell it to the mother of nine children who was forced into marrage aged fourteen and whos life revolves around cooking cleaning not just for her own family but for her extended one as well, all she has to look fowerd to is an early death. And this women is only twenty seven and speaks no english. This womens life could any one of thousands across the world and can throw as much islamic text as you like but, tell me as a muslim would you have rather been born a man or a women? In reality a lot is written down but how much can you honestly say is followed? And A sarasan, im sorry but women being beat in public as a punishment for some percieved crime sounds like something straight out of a country that has sharia law to me. Dont believe thats sharia law? Go to soudi arabia, somalia, nigeria all countrys that have punished rape victims for adultry under sharia law, still dont think thats sharia? Dont tell me tell them! Seems Islam is as confused as the rest of us about what is sharia. Go to one country get one anser go to another get a other one! And ray stay i dont care if the are a million sharia courts as thay have no legal rights in this country and dont get any in the future.

'sandy p' NO sorry to disappoint but i aint 5years old- however the asian guys 'UP' north act that age- maybe you should try finding them lol rather than write a 'ESSAY' on here crying like a lil baby over others comments!

Brock so what youre saying is when these thugs were beating these women, they were interpreting the Sharia Law? Youre mind is twisted.
Have you been Saudi Arabia, Iran, Nigeria? Remind me how rape victims are treated in the UK? They are degraded in the court rooms and the UK has one of the lowest conviction rates for Rape. Besides the reason why you get different answers for Sharia in different countries is because Sharia Law like the common law used in countries like the UK and USA are interpreted differently.

Ive posted a BBC link to show how Israel treats Muslim women. I guess we should be following their example
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8404807.stm

Just so you know -> http://www.matribunal.com, please dont lecture me about there being no legaly binding Sharia courts in the UK.

A saracen. Please dont get so defensive! Islam is not the problem right, but its seems for some reason to have bred a climate where its OK to mistreat women, dont just take my word for it look into the facts. There is thought to be at least seven or eight honer murders every year in this country that go uncharged, thats shocking, and the amount of refuges for asian women fleeing violance not just from husbands but brothers fathers uncles, grows every year. This all says to me that there is a climate in some muslim homes (not all) that its fine to hit any female who displeases them, this was proven by the this shocking attack and by the fact that thay did it in such a public way. Also I thought the Koran and therefore sharia law was gods word and was not open to interpretation? Or are the laws decided by man? And please could you let me know how would these men have been punished under sharia law?

Brock, the problem lies within culture not the religion; the man for mixing culture with religion and the women for not knowing her basic islamic rights. We all have an obligation to educate ourselves; one of our basic islamic rights is not to be oppressed or oppress others: Hadith - Sahih al-Bukhari 3.624, Narrated Anas, r.a. Allah's Apostle (pbuh) said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one." People asked, "O Allah's Apostle! It is all right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet pbuh said, "By preventing him from oppressing others."

The woman you talk about with 9 children having to cook and clean most likely doesnt know her islamic rights and hasnt been informed by her husband because he may be ignorant of her rights- it is not obligatory (fard) that she serves her extended family but can do so out of choice-its not even obligatory upon her to breasfeed her children but she does this out of love and choice in both situations and for this she will be rewarded. These types of men on the other hand think they are superior and believe they have the upper hand- all down to culture and their upbringing! We shouldnt stereotype because not all muslim men (and in general men) are like that! Allah says in the Quran: “…And live with them in kindness…” (Quran 4:19). Women are not slaves but to be treated with the highest regard and love. Im not 'throwing islamic text' it is called QUOTING!

All praise is to Allah swt that He created me a woman subanallah! I can understand why you would think that women in other countries are not treated equally-this also boils down to the selfish leaders in some of our muslim countries and our media which sometimes encourage false stereotypes. Coming from a educational media background- i can tell you in all honesty that many leading national papers will always publish stories in the way they want you to feel about it. Its called YELLOW JOURNALISM!

An example is in Saudi ( newspaper article i read many years ago), a woman was raped by two men when she went to meet her ex-boyfriend, one of whom was her ex-boyfriend. The woman was lashed because she violated the rule that a women cannot travel more than a certain distance without a mahram (umarriageble kin) for her safety, and she was obviously going to see a boyfriend. This was splashed all over the news and sensationalised giving everyone a distorted message of islam that the woman was punished while the men were let off scot- free= that muslims think rape is ok. No-one reported that in actual fact the men were also lashed many more times and then jailed for 15 years for the rape. Men have a greater responsibility in Islam, hence greater punishment! And yes a lot of religious teachings have been revealed and written down but in all honesty how many people (including yourself) do you know that follow their religious teachings to the T or uphold good morals? At least some us try!

Another thing, these honour killings you talk about- yes they exist but you seem to have forgotton all the other knife crime/ murders/rapes/paedophilia across the board! These murders havent just occured in asian and muslim communities- you need to look at the bigger picture. All of them should be condemned!

I hope i've answered some of your questions. Thank you for asking.

Orthodox religion subjugates women; that is one of the major themes in all patriachal faiths.

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